Personally, I think that the discussion around this will evolve as the news spreads, but I agree with Robert on this one. Sure, X/Twitter has become a less welcoming place than before, but shutting out a significant portion of your community without seeking their input first isn't a sensible move for such a foundational open source project.

Nah, I think I'm cool if Debian doesn't respect the input of Nazi sympathisers.

So Wayland?

They can be found on Mastodon here: @debian@framapiaf.org

Good riddance. Stop using Nazi platforms and join the fediverse instead.

Wild that so many are still hanging out at the Nazi bar

When it forces you to log in to view stuff, it's usefulness as a platform for announcements is substantially lessened.

shutting out a significant portion of your community without seeking their input first isn't a sensible move for such a foundational open source project.

Ironic when X shuts out anyone who isn't logged in and shuts out anyone who doesn't pay for a blue checkmark from having visible replies.

Having an X account isn't consequence-free - if it becomes where updates occur, people have to sign up for an account and subject themselves to nazis everywhere and all manner of crypto spam just to see updates. And they have to pay Elon tribute to be heard in response. It's crazy that anyone sees it as being friendly to users.

I keep making the incorrect assumption that everyone has already left X. Just seems common sense we've hit all hands abandon ship

I don't mind, actually everyone should ditch Twatter.

I didn't really need another reason to love Debian more but here we are... I'm donating to Debian today

shutting out a significant portion of your community without seeking their input first isn't a sensible move for such a foundational open source project.

It actually is a perfectly sensible move, and it doesn't "shut out" anyone. If anything, prioritizing twitter is what shuts users out. They linked to two-three alternatives. What's the argument here, exactly, from the other side?

... Debian was on twitter??

My town’s subreddit just started a policy to disallow links to X for similar reasons.

There is a movement to avoid the platform.

As it turns out, having an account on a social media platform full of Nazis, violent racists, and child diddlers is not good for business.

The reasons (summarized using Copilot):

• The platform no longer aligns with Debian's values, social contract, code of conduct, and diversity statement.
• Concerns over X becoming a place where people they care about don't feel safe.
• Abuse on the platform happening without consequences.
• Issues with misinformation and lack of moderation.

god, the replies to their tweet are awful...

This is a great example of where linking to a blog post about an announcement is better than linking to the announcement itself:

after digging a bit deeper, I discovered that there was originally a longer, more detailed announcement that was later scrapped. I found it in a GitLab commit made by Jean. [Link to GitLab comment in article]

Good job, itsfoss.com

Good for them. It's an organisation's free choice to pick the platforms they post and interact on, if any. Their presence is a service in itself while there are plenty of other ways to follow or reach them if needed.

Fuck X.com, all my homies use wayland.social

I don't like how people are trying to stir up dissent and drama around this. The message posted is short and on point, it includes all the important bits. There really isn't much more to add.

The reasoning behind this move is said to be X/Twitter not being in line with Debian's shared values

Maybe we'll go back to forums.

I hope BBS's make a comeback. Pixilated titles and all..

Great news, Thank you Debian community!

If you ask me, this looks like a big possibility, as X/Twitter's evident bias towards the newly established U.S. government and their favoring of one demographic over the other could have set off Debian's move.

That's just me speculating, though. 🙃

No, you got it right. I get that you need to cover your ass to avoid a lawsuit, but it's exactly because a guy who loves the adoration of nazis owns the platform.