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[-] shirro@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

Microsoft shareholders and regulators (if they still exist in the modern US) might do better to investigate Microsoft leaderships relationship with Altman and why they banked the company on bullshit claims about a product the market does not want. Things are going to get really nasty when the finger pointing starts to get serious. Trillions of dollars are being wasted and the only ones who made money were grifters and NVIDIA.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 hours ago

Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did. --FTFY

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago

OMG Competition!

QUICK, they're a foreign threat! They're coming right for us!!!!

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago

When a writer copies someone else's work without cites or compensation, it's called "plagiarism." But when an AI does it, it's called "LLM training."

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 14 points 11 hours ago

Unless that AI is not OpenAI, then it's "plagiarism" still.

[-] Deepus@lemm.ee 10 points 12 hours ago

What the fuck is Microsoft getting involved for?! Maybe concentrate on not providing shitty fucking software fuck heads!

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.

[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Stealing from thieves isn't a crime.

Especially not when China turns around and Robin Hoods it back to the world.

Just saying.

[-] LappingDog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 hours ago

Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

What data? they one OpenAI illegally obtained first?!

[-] daddy32@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Lol its like fucking lavrov from fucking russia screaming "this is against international law" when Europe froze their assets.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

“You can’t steal that public data! We stole it first!”

And considering that’s exactly what Microsoft did to Apple with point and click, what irony!

[-] Oaksey@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

They didn’t steal it from Smith & Wesson?

They both stole point and click from Xerox if my memory serves me correctly

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago

Apple did pay Xerox for it if I'm remembering right

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 day ago

yeah xerox invented the GUI and mouse

[-] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago

Actually, it was invented by Douglas Engelbart in Stanford in the 60s

https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/162/000/

Xerox (re)made it for the PC in the 80s.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Ah TIL! I didn't know it originated elsewhere.

So while it's true Apple and Microsoft got the idea from Xerox, Xerox didn't originate it.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Oh really? **Rabbit hole unlocked

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcb-XF1RPQ

The relevant part of Pirates of Silicon Valley. After which you should watch the whole thing. It’s fan fiction, but it’s the best explanation of what happened between Apple and Microsoft leading into the 1990s.

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 236 points 1 day ago

The irony is overwhelming

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 26 points 1 day ago

What’s the game plan if they did?

Trade restrictions?

China already proved those did fuck all to stop them from developing their own model.

Ducking knew this ai bubble would burst sooner or later, just glad we can finally get on with it now.

[-] Quexotic@infosec.pub 4 points 10 hours ago

I ducking knew it too, I've been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they're actually useful.

This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.

As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We're definitely 2 different people. Lol.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago
  1. Name the company involved a military asset
  2. Forbid US companies from hosting the models
  3. Pressure foreign companies to not work with them
[-] konomikitten 147 points 1 day ago
[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

Chinese company:

Truly, you have a dizzling intellect.

Microsoft:

AND IM JUST GETTING STARTED! Where was I?

Chinese company:

Stealing data....

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Somebody better call the WAHMBULANCE!

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Surely they'd like some cheese to go with that whine?

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 164 points 1 day ago

What, you mean like Microsoft, uh, OpenAI did?

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 116 points 1 day ago

Yep, NOW it's a problem, though! Because it's someone else doing the same thing, someone who isn't part of the human centipede starting at Trump's colon.

[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago

You mean they ripped off the copyrighted material that OpenAI ripped off?

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 60 points 1 day ago

we stole it fair and square

[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I stole from the thief, is it really stealing?

  • some Philosopher probably
[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago

In Brazil, there's a rhymed saying: "ladrão que rouba ladrão tem 100 anos de perdão", it translates to "a thief that steals from a thief has 100 years of forgiveness"

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's a common proverb in Portuguese, not just in Brazil.

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 day ago

It’s no crime to steal from a thief.

How could it be better when they just stole everything? The fact that its better basically proves that its not stolen.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’m sure now that OpenAI accuses DeepSeek of stealing they will now prove that they have rights to things that are being stolen, right? XD

[-] tux0r@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago

So that means that Microsoft will pay compensation to us, right?

[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

When you can't beat em, sue em. It's the American way.

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Time to talk about data rights :)

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Article from ft https://www.ft.com/content/a0dfedd1-5255-4fa9-8ccc-1fe01de87ea6

https://archive.is/D9whR

Looks like Microsoft is bracing for today’s earnings call

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

"Tom, if irony was strawberries we'd all be drinking smoothies right now"

[-] Mikina@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

lol, I love it. I'm thinking about paying for DeepSeek even though I hate AI bullshit, just to spite all the panicking AI tech scammers. This has seriously made my week, the amount of copium they are inhaling is insanely funny :D

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