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The irony is overwhelming
What, you mean like Microsoft, uh, OpenAI did?
Yep, NOW it's a problem, though! Because it's someone else doing the same thing, someone who isn't part of the human centipede starting at Trump's colon.
Chinese company:
Truly, you have a dizzling intellect.
Microsoft:
AND IM JUST GETTING STARTED! Where was I?
Chinese company:
Stealing data....
You mean they ripped off the copyrighted material that OpenAI ripped off?
we stole it fair and square
It’s no crime to steal from a thief.
How could it be better when they just stole everything? The fact that its better basically proves that its not stolen.
Stealing from thieves isn't a crime.
Especially not when China turns around and Robin Hoods it back to the world.
Just saying.
Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.
“You can’t steal that public data! We stole it first!”
And considering that’s exactly what Microsoft did to Apple with point and click, what irony!
They both stole point and click from Xerox if my memory serves me correctly
yeah xerox invented the GUI and mouse
Actually, it was invented by Douglas Engelbart in Stanford in the 60s
https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/162/000/
Xerox (re)made it for the PC in the 80s.
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Oh really? **Rabbit hole unlocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcb-XF1RPQ
The relevant part of Pirates of Silicon Valley. After which you should watch the whole thing. It’s fan fiction, but it’s the best explanation of what happened between Apple and Microsoft leading into the 1990s.
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What data? they one OpenAI illegally obtained first?!
I’m sure now that OpenAI accuses DeepSeek of stealing they will now prove that they have rights to things that are being stolen, right? XD
Time to talk about data rights :)
What’s the game plan if they did?
Trade restrictions?
China already proved those did fuck all to stop them from developing their own model.
Ducking knew this ai bubble would burst sooner or later, just glad we can finally get on with it now.
I ducking knew it too, I've been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they're actually useful.
This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.
As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We're definitely 2 different people. Lol.
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So that means that Microsoft will pay compensation to us, right?
Article from ft https://www.ft.com/content/a0dfedd1-5255-4fa9-8ccc-1fe01de87ea6
Looks like Microsoft is bracing for today’s earnings call
Lol its like fucking lavrov from fucking russia screaming "this is against international law" when Europe froze their assets.
When a writer copies someone else's work without cites or compensation, it's called "plagiarism." But when an AI does it, it's called "LLM training."
Unless that AI is not OpenAI, then it's "plagiarism" still.
If I stole from the thief, is it really stealing?
- some Philosopher probably
In Brazil, there's a rhymed saying: "ladrão que rouba ladrão tem 100 anos de perdão", it translates to "a thief that steals from a thief has 100 years of forgiveness"
It's a common proverb in Portuguese, not just in Brazil.
When you can't beat em, sue em. It's the American way.
"Tom, if irony was strawberries we'd all be drinking smoothies right now"
Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did. --FTFY
What the fuck is Microsoft getting involved for?! Maybe concentrate on not providing shitty fucking software fuck heads!
They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.
Oh fair, i didnt know that. But still, fuck Microsoft.
OMG Competition!
QUICK, they're a foreign threat! They're coming right for us!!!!
lol, I love it. I'm thinking about paying for DeepSeek even though I hate AI bullshit, just to spite all the panicking AI tech scammers. This has seriously made my week, the amount of copium they are inhaling is insanely funny :D
If I had money to spend, I would get a ChatGPT subscription since they lose money for every account.
The whole startup industry rely on investors to cover for their costs for years, while they work on a loss, in order to obtain a bigger market share. Look at Netflix, Facebook, WhatsApp, etc.
So buying an account you are increasing their market share.
But feel free to use Mistral, Deepseek, etc. that would be better
Just rent some server space instead and run your open-weights model of choice
You have to use it a lot. From what I can tell that's their problem, they priced unlimited access low based on some numbers they pulled out their arse and then were all shocked Pikachu face when people used it and unlimited amount.
I had a subscription but I barely used it, maybe twice a day with no complex stuff. I don’t get how it’s possible to lose money on users like me. I finally cancelled because of the price.
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Maybe they could buy a spare one from AliBaba. Maybe that would help..
"Waaaaah" you say?
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