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Me: Gets Conceived

CCP to my mother: Error: Child-Capacity exceeded. Prepare for termination.


I was the second born during One Child Policy. They tried to kill me before I was even born, I feel like a John Connor.

"They tried to murder me before I was born, They tried again when I was 13. Machines from the future..." -John Connor Terminator 3rd movie

My mom just concealed my existence, bribed government officials... etc... Not sure exactly what she did... So here I am, not dead. Wonder what the other timeline looks like... 🤔

(my mom told me she was forcibly sterilized after giving birth to me)

Also, the penalty was like a 5 digits amount of Yuan/RMB, I think it was like 15,000 Yuan or somthing, which was a lot of money back around the 2000s. They refused to issue my birth certificate until the fines are paid. So if my parents didn't pay it, I'd legally not exist (lol). There has probably a lot of legally non-existent people in China. They can't ride trains... because trains require ID. Like imagine being an "illegal immigrant" in your own country. Shits so fucked up.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

The Chinese government is very powerful yet they seem to fear there own people the most.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago

It doesn't want to answer topics that Lemmy's most famous China-advocating accounts claim are no problem. Huh

[-] SapphireSphinx@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It doesn’t want to answer topics that Lemmy’s most famous China-advocating accounts claim are no problem. Huh

So what? Every model is censored. That is true for the US based models too. Yes it would be better if all models where completely uncensored but in my use case I don't spend my day asking questions about Winnie Puuh.

This is a fantastic model that is open source. It's even commercially available for free and it is seemingly even better than the proprietary US based ones. It's much cheaper too.

Take your whataboutistic absolutes somewhere else, there are uncensored models and the fact that there is potentially heavy censorship behind the major ones to serve political interests is not a good thing.

[-] SapphireSphinx@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

there are uncensored models.

Which SOTA models are uncensored? Honest question. I had ChatGPT refusing to answer multiple times. ChatGPT refuses to answers even harmless questions. I tried it just now with a local Llama model: It's censored too. Sure, they censor different things but they are censored nonetheless.

Edit:

I haven't downvoted you.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

It does sounds like all these AI thing is unreliable if it doesn't even want to answer a basic question huh.

[-] SapphireSphinx@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

if it doesn’t even want to answer a basic question huh.

It would be better if it answers those question but this or later versions of it might be a perfect fit to be included as part of an Application/Service. There you simply do not need to answer questions about the CCP.

I'm really tired of this: "LOL. It doesn't answer a question about Tianamen Square". Yes it doesn't and yes that is definitely not good but that doesn't make this model any less impressive or usable.

[-] guy@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago

There's a difference between censoring sexual content or how-to-make pipebombs versus politics and free speech mate

[-] SapphireSphinx@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

There’s a difference between censoring sexual content or how-to-make pipebombs versus politics and free speech mate

Absolutely. But now we are in a discussion about what kind of censorship is ok. That's not the point. the point was: There are no uncensored SOTA models.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Yes. Every model has its overlords altering information. It'd be fine if models would be only instructed to avoid harmful content generation on ethical grounds but it's quite different from being developed to produce fabrications on purpose.

[-] SacredPony@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Omg, a Chinese made ai wont talk shit about embarrassing Chinese politics, who could've ever predicted such a thing

[-] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

i just love those empty < tags lol

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

What does this have to do with this sub?

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago

What does it say if you ask the same but for the US or a European country?

this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2025
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