Apologies to whoever originally posted this I downloaded it earlier today
Luigi Mangione made an odd-looking gesture towards a CEO.
Yeah, I think I wholeheartedly agree with the Die Zeit journalist. If a right-wing person does a Hitler salute in front of a right wing audience... It's probably a Hitler salute... Context matters and it's not like Musk usually shares left-wing perspective on his platform. We know for a fact whom and what he sympathizes with...
The thing that my stomach drop is the crowd cheered. Not a shocked intake of breath or booing. They cheered. He did a sieg heil and they cheered it. If you cheer a Nazi doing Nazi things, you're also a Nazi. The US has a Nazi infestation. Even if they get another remotely fair election to correct this, it won't be accepted, again, and insurrection2 will have been prepared for, for 5 years. I feel that sieg heil of the richest person on earth marked the end of American democracy.
Republicans will never accept another election if a Democrat wins. This is our future, where every election they lose is contested. That is, if we have another election. I think we're heading to a pseudo democracy like Russia, where they can vote but Putin always wins in a landslide.
To be honest, I don't see them allowing a vote to go against them. It is if this shit can hold together without Trump. He's old and doesn't do diet or exercise. He's the linchpin of it.
I spent the larger part of the day trying to convince my sister. I don’t think it worked and now I’m just depressed about it.
The best argument I've heard so far is "If it's not a Nazi salute, do it at work tomorrow."
I tried that, got promoted to Chief of Police. I didn't even work in Law Enforcement
And if its "just a hand gesture, try giving a cop the finger"
No kidding huh.
I said either way the nazis know what they saw. She still double downed gaslighting me some more and changed the subject to how Bernie’s policies are more like the nazis. I never even brought up Bernie. I replied with a sad emoji after that. It’s exhausting.
Have you shown her the side-by-side GIF of him doing the same move as the H-man? There's another one where it shows him doing it exactly like a group of neo-nazis on a street demonstration. Mirror image.
Because the Nazis own them
Most major corporations are owned or operated by sociopathic oligarchs who would prefer to implement a fascist dictatorship, and be a part of the state capitalist monopoly, than have to pay higher taxes or deal with regulations.
This is what happens when society rewards psychopathy/narcissism with wealth and power.
"BuT cApItAlIsM pRoMoTeS mErItOcRaCy!!"
Because US corporate media is owned by fellow fascists.
Next?
Because he's rich. And a celebrity. Americans love them their rich celebrities.
And more importantly, rich celebrities will sue you for defamation even if you’re right. That can cost a lot of money to defend against.
I've seen people here on Lemmy, people I don't think are just trolling, that are finding convoluted reasons to excuse it as not a Nazi salute. And I am so fucking tired of it. Listen to virtually everything he has ever said on the subject of race and gender and sexual orientation and other such things. Maybe if he didn't have a really long history of being a racist, maybe if he didn't support the Germany's modern Nazi party, maybe if he isn't trying to get an unapologetic Nazi out of prison in the UK, I would consider that he accidentally did a Nazi salute (twice). But that's not the reality.
"Oh sure, he's a bigot that loves Nazis, but that wasn't a Nazi salute" is some real fucking bullshit.
Internet forums have always been full of contrarians who want to be the only ones to know the "real truth". That explains a lot of it. Others just get lost in the logic of it. I'f I can't prove that he held true Nazism in his heart when he did it, does it count as a Nazi salute?' This is sort of futile question they ask. The fact that there's broad consensus on what this was makes them more likely to try to logic their way into a special minority position.
The corporate press is now just a pro-kleptocracy propaganda outlet. Representing the views of an oligarchy isn't exactly "mainstream" so we should stop calling it that.
because a huge part of fascism is the merging of corporations with the government.
the corporate media is covering for nazis for the same reason the leader enshittificator Alphabet, the otherwise twitter's direct competitor Evil Corp, and of course the slavery warehouse Amazon were all represented with their figureheads Sunil Bakshi, the T-600, and Lex Luthor alongside that Troglodyte Phony Stark. they're merging.
That is the precise thing your average true believer right wing "libertarian" doesn't understand about fascism.
It doesn't matter whether the state or the corporations absorb the other, the merging of these power structures (and religion as well) is the goal. The result is still a tyranny that can only be escaped with war.
Lemmy should maintain a list of competent and incompetent news sources. In lots of places.
Because they’re cowards and have been for quite some time.
They're all hoping to become maga state run media.
Also, they have no problem with Nazis.
This isn't complicated. Hardly worth the time it took to post. 🙄
They worked very hard to get the Nazis elected. That's why.
$$$
because they're complicit
Because they are also Nazis, they're just not ready to go mask-off yet.
"Corporate Media"
Where's the confusion?
I think that you are being distracted.
Hey Elon, do something outrageous so these idiots are looking at you while I'm over here doing this other scary stuff.
Because the same people who are asked to describe who did it are the same people who are paying the people to describe it.
Because everyone wants to hope it won't happen to Us. They think/hope that by not acknowledging, it won't exist. A la COVID. Nothing like sticking your head into the sand... 😮💨
Because there's just enough "plausible deniability" that they could face costly legal challenges by oligarchs who have endless money to throw at bogus claims
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