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[-] sucius1@lemdro.id 125 points 1 week ago

Fuck the US, it's time to stand together as Europeans

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

As a US citizen, I approve of this position. Fuck this place.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago

Wouldn't any tariff on Denmark specifically be met with counter-tariffs by the EU?

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 week ago

Last time it was targeted to specific red state exports like Kentucky whiskey too.

[-] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 65 points 1 week ago

It's 5 past 12 to build up our own Military Industry and have a "Zero-American-Products" Policy in our military.

Many Weapons, Jets and Vehicles are dependent on American Start codes to function for their entire lifecycle.

It was foolish to accept such clauses in the first place

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Why does the Danish PM even pick up the phone?

Or if she did by mistake, she can always do what I do with telemarketers who try to sell me shit I don't want: put the phone down on mute and wait until the telemarketer understands nobody's on the line and hangs up.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 36 points 1 week ago

European politicians' job description has included enduring the sheer stupidity of US diplomacy since forever.

Do you remember when you wanted us to go bomb Iraq because Saudi Arabia bombed you, and when you got told that that's dumb as fuck, renamed fries as a response?

The US has never not been idiotic. It's just on cocaine now.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

We've moved onto bath salts and meth from cocaine. It's a whole new level of stupid and the whole world is in for a bad ride.

[-] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some of your politicians and voters seem to have moved on to eating crayons and sniffing glue, though.

But don't worry, ours are following closely.

[-] gajustempus@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

courtesy.

we're europeans. No need to get down to his (Trumpet's) level...

[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

Sounds like it is truly time to station troops in Greenland to defend against the US. The issue will need to be forced, so Drumpf either backs down, or crosses the line into hostility so the world will wake up from its denial of the danger.

[-] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

No, Greenland is in the Nato. When the US attacks then half of the us army will be on the offence, the other half on the defence to keep the us army out.

[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

They should just hang up on him. Stop allowing him to take center stage

[-] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

Put them on hold for half an hour with the lady saying that the call is very important to them.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Go and fuck yourself, Mr. Trump.

[-] calavera@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

Things are getting ugly really quick

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

You see Putin needs to control the NATO base there

[-] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Children often react poorly when they're learning a lesson, I imagine this is true for lil pants shittin nazi donny

[-] kbal@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago

The Farce Reich will never conquer Greenland.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do you want to put money on that? Because I wouldn't.

Trump is crazy enough to do it - or rather the Project 2025 sumbitches who are remote-controlling him in the background, because he sure as hell ain't the one coming up with all those executive orders he's signing.

And while the whole world would scream and shout in outrage, nobody would be able to do a damn thing about it.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 week ago

He can try, but that would be an attack on the rest of NATO and it would definitely grab the attention of Russia and China that don't want the US monopolizing the Arctic. And there's nothing that puts all existing grievances on pause like a nazi lunatic doing land grabs.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Lol, Russia wants him to do this. Both to foment discontent and to alter the Arctic shipping routes.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You are forgetting that Russia and the US already have territorial conflicts in the Artic, because both claim most of the sea for themselves, and that neither country wants the oil reserves in the hands of the other.

If Trump controlled Canada and Greenland it would bolster the US claim and make it viable for the US to enforce it.

As for China, they benefit from a trade route being divided between several countries, as it's more likely that the international community will end up pressuring Canada to accept an international strait regime if the entire sea is not in the hands of the US.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago

The UK would probably broker the deal behind the scenes, in public professing calm but, behind closed doors, putting pressure on Denmark to accept and buttering Trump up to compensate them generously for it. Outside the EU, Britain is weak except for its NATO membership, and that won’t be of any help here, so it’s in Britain’s interest that this is resolved as smoothly as possible, and that they remain in Trump’s good books.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Do you imagine the amount of backlash that would cause?

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just as much as the US pulling out of the WHO, ordering other nations to up their military spendings, threatening other nations with insane tariffs, threatening to invade or annex them or dropping military support unexpectedly: not very much...

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Just as much:

as the US pulling out of the WHO

To the degree of what I know, the WHO is not a mandatory organization to which countries are bound to.

It is benefitial to adhere to it but...

ordering other nations to up their military spendings

All nations vinculated by the NATO treaty have agreed to invest, yearly, a given percentage of their budget towards defence. Something most didn't do it... hate to admit it but the guy had a point to pick there

threatening other nations with insane tariffs

Economic warfare is poised to wreck the US economy faster. The consumerist culture is too strong.

threatening to invade or annex them

Everyone us trembling in fear. More about to foam at the mouth of rage.

dropping military support unexpectedly

Hardly anything coming from that mouth is unexpected.

[-] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

I think they would pretend it didn't happen and talk it down. Otherwise they would have to acknowledge that Trump got them with Pants down

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

I couldn't disagree more.

As the orange myna bird rethoric escalates, so does the willingness of other actors to bite back.

Having a nazi as a focus point of all the frustration and hatred is a good way to shift attention from internal issues.

Nobody really wants to be called to pick up arms but the US don't have the monopoly of war in the world.

[-] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I really hope you're right and we are getting our shit together to stand up to this Bully

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago

Greenland, home to just 57,000 people, is an entry point to new shipping routes gradually opening up through the Arctic; it also boasts abundant but hard to access minerals.

Am I reading it wrong or is "gradually opening up through the arctic" a euphemism for climate crisis effects?

[-] Logh@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

It’s exactly that. Carriers can’t wait for the arctic to thaw, it is a much shorter and quicker route between the hemishperes. China has been sending containerships through there for a while now.

[-] federalreverse@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

China has also been buying up land and small harbors to expand in Scandinavia.

[-] Zero22xx 15 points 1 week ago

"I AM YELLING AND OBNOXIOUS THEREFORE I AM A STRONG MAN WITH REGULAR SIZED HANDS. LARGE HANDS, EVEN."

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago

Trump should rather talk to Múte Egede the prime minister of Greenland 🤷‍♂️

[-] federalreverse@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] federalreverse@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Grim though this may be—once Greenland's conquered, it can't be long before Denmark is taken over by Tesco.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This is Trump's Poland?

That's pathetic.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Maybe don't link an article with a paywall. thanks.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

Try „mirror”.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

Either learn to bypass them, read the comments to find someone who has, or consume only the free, heavily biased rage-bait media

None of these options include telling people not to post real journalism

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

How long would it take a coalition of Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany, Poland...or just all of the EU to build as many nukes as Kim Yong Un has? Maybe a week or a month...

Because that seems to be the only way to get any respect from trump and his toadies.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago
[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Eh, France has too much to lose even in a minor nuclear exchange (Paris), they would probably only use them if their soil was threatened (in which case you have their funny warning nuke policy). We need a full umbrella from all the EU to all the EU, with keys in the hands of different rotating states/officials to make them more than just elected bureaucrats.

Same for the UNSC, probably, a nuke closet to point at when stupid countries do stupid things. Fascists don't respect anything else.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The French nuclear forces are ocean and air based. Thus they could easily cover the entire EU and the French have often asked other EU members to contribute to finance this expensive endeavor... with very little success.

But I don't see much difference between France or any other EU member state. They are all densely populated and would suffer hugely from any kind of nuclear exchange. The entire point of nuclear weapons is that it never comes to that though, and the French nuclear weapons are well equipped as a deterrent due to a theoretical second strike capability.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fine, yea, it'd be good to just chip in to get ready-to-go state-of-the-art coverage. Maybe they hold back because they don't want to be so beholden to a single country like France at least until the US becomes completely unreliable.

[-] benjhm@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wasn't this last week's news?
So, if it reopens, here's a longterm-scenario: suppose US and Canada both split into oceanic versus central, meanwhile Russia is weakened and blocked from europe, but these fossil-fuelled conservative autocratic mid-continentals want to forge a new empire across the arctic, where's their strategic hub half-way between Texas and Muscovy - Greenland of course !
( Prefer a simpler explanation? - maybe it's just punishment for sending F16s to Ukraine, hey you might need those ? )

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I was hoping Biden would send every gun, bullet, bomb and vehicle to Ukraine, to take the teeth out of Trump's threats for a couple years at least. Obviously that wasn't going to happen, but it was a nice thing to think.

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