I've never wanted to engage these people, but after Trump stripped the security from Fauci and Bolton and Pompeo, I have a morbid curiosity to see how'd they justify it. I mean, really, how do you defend stripping protection from your political opponents, who you know are being targeted by extremists, with no real justification or even reasoning beyong them being political opponents?
Don't bother looking for justifications. They are infinite, because they are not honest. If their side does it, they're in favor of it, no matter what they do.
It's best to point out that this is what's going on, that many others don't do this, and after people read your comment, they're left seeing the truth of the soulless, valuelessness of that behavior. It'll make people slightly less likely to do it each time this repeats.
A lot of them have this sort of humiliation fetish so you can sometimes just bully them into the less shit opinion if you degrade them enough.
I welcome them, honestly... Lemmy is emphatically too far left. For fucks sake, two of the top three instances are nearly all tankies.
We need diversity in here if we want to understand what's going on. The conservatives braving Lemmy honestly could be people seeking answers, too.
Some will be propagandists, but so are a lot of clowns on the far-left that lurk here.
Conservatism is something to be healed in the brain and in the body, not conquered, fought against, or included as part of a skewed notion of balance. Same with authoritarianism, regardless of where on a left-right spectrum it is. Anything telling you to get fucked and fend for yourself, or bow down, is a corrosive thing that simply destroys things it touches.
Any opinion that isn't poisoned by either one is a welcome addition to the table.
Users can have upvotes and downvotes disabled in settings so they are never see how many vote up or down.
In my mobile client I don't see down votes and I like it that way. Today I logged in on my desktop and saw them. So I went through my comment history laughing for a while. I think I was down voted the most when I had something negative to say about neoliberals.
I am unbothered being down voted and think generally that the whole upvote tally can lead to groupthink in general. Being able to disable viewing them is a good design choice that could be made better being site | instance wide.
As a social experiment I wonder how much we have become accustomed to internet points as a form of self validation. If a large whole instance was segregated for a month or two and had disabled the voting tally, what would the engagement look like? Is it all ego driven?
Totally agree with you in relation to groupthink and it's the main reason I have them disabled too. I don't like my opinion of a comment to be influenced by others before I've even finished reading it.
I like that lemmy lets you see the upvotes and downvotes separately rather than just an aggregate like Reddit has. It's hard to tell when you see something has 1 or zero votes what people generally think but it might turn out that you have 100 upvotes and 100 downvotes and it just happens to add up to zero but you hit on something that's actually deeply controversial. That info is nice to have.
Waaah waaah, Lemmy is a lefty ecochamber propaganda machine waaah waaah
They absolutely are incapable of believing they are wrong at all. Every solution that includes them being correct or in the right are the only viable ones and everything else is a trick, or a lie, or "buzzword here". They are conspiracy theorists and suffer the same deep logical failings.
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