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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Summary

Elon Musk’s Nazi salute during a speech was projected onto Tesla’s Berlin factory by two left-wing activist groups, Led By Donkeys and the Center for Political Beauty.

The groups, known for their creative stunts, aimed to expose political hypocrisy and address issues like fascism and historical accountability.

Musk dismissed the controversy, urging people not to overanalyze his actions.

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It wasn't controversial. There is no controversy about it, everyone except nazis are saying that it was a nazi salute.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 115 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah it's not like he was this huge humanitarian that suddenly made a gesture that looked a bit like it.

Musk has repeatedly shown sympathies for the extreme right, for instance officially supporting the German Extreme right ultra nationalist AfD.
So when a proven fascist makes a Nazi salute, there is absolutely zero reason to believe it was an accident.

So USA now has official Nazis in their government now!!

Congratulations USA.

[-] Shawdow194@fedia.io 22 points 10 months ago

Right - like normal humans would say "whoops you're right, that was an unintended gesture"

Not double down on it

[-] dbkblk@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately, far-right is invading most countries... There are just more discrete for now, but less and less.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

Nah, if the reports on the internet are right, the nazis seem to be pretty clear in agreement and celebrating it.

[-] Eril@feddit.org 50 points 10 months ago
[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago

The Nazis who are loud and proud about being Nazis agree it was a nazi salute.

The Nazis who still want to hide what they are because they don't want to face the consequences and social shunning say it wasn't a nazi salute.

[-] flying_gel@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

I thought the actual natzis heard him loud and clear. I wouldn't be surprised that they start saying "My heart goes out to you" just like they used to say "let's go Brandon"

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

Everyone saw him loud and clear.

There is no more room for interpretation, Elon Musk thinks himself a Nazi.

[-] prole 30 points 10 months ago

Yeah because anyone who did that by accident would be tripping over themselves trying to apologize and explain themselves.

[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

...and yet, the nazis love him even more!

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 10 months ago

Actually, the Nazis are saying it was a Nazi salute too. Just to each other in their own little echo chambers.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure that word means what you think it means...

Controversial doesn't mean 'It's in question' it doesn't mean 'People are unsure of whether it happened'

It means people widely (but not entirely) disapprove of it.

It's very controversial.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 16 points 10 months ago
[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Hmm… looking at Webster’s definition of controversy, seems like it is perfectly correct to use the term in relation to what Musk has done.

controversy

noun

1 a discussion marked especially by the expression of opposing views DISPUTE

The decision aroused a controversy among the students.

2 QUARRELSTRIFE

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/controversy

I understood it ls in people are discussing if it was a nazi salute or not, maybe some of the meaning inside the word got lost in translation? I'm not a native speaker so it's a possibility.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

That's fine, I don't think anyone really thinks it was an accident though either, the people saying that are just trying to downplay their dogwhistle.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

But we have to have balance in this important debate between both sides: Nazi and not-Nazi!

And thus the Overton window for US politics continues its rightwards slide.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Geez you wokies are tense. Can't people just scream "Heil Hitler" anymore without being labeled Nazi?? Stop overanalyzing everything, maybe the guy with the swastika tattoo just like the esthetic of it, is that so difficult to understand??

[-] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Had to check your stuff for a sec, poe's law...

I hate that I can't tell the difference between genuine bad faith sympathizers and just some good old sarcasm these days, crazy times.

[-] WheelcharArtist@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

...urging people not to overanalyze his actions.

yeah no need for that. he is a nazi that did the nazi salute. easy

[-] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 26 points 10 months ago

We are not overanalyzing anything, from the list of tells already given by the nazi, this will just brand musk forever as a nazi.

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 25 points 10 months ago

It's not over-analysis of subtle body movenents, it was a straight up Nazi salute

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

urging people not to overanalyze his actions.

Isn't that like the whole schtick of the current anti-woke/far-right/fascist group? Overanalysing to the point of absurdity, where small actions by some 'adversary' are analysed/reimagined until they become malicious, deliberate and prepared?

Why shouldn't Elon have some of that on his plate too?

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

"Rules for thee, not for me."

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Musk should be greeted by giving him the middle finger. Then say it was just a gesture in the moment and not to overanalyze it.

[-] friendlymessage@feddit.org 7 points 10 months ago

I'd prefer a punch in the face

[-] madjo@feddit.nl 18 points 10 months ago

Only cowardly yellow media call it "controversial".

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Stop washing the nazi’s actions. Fucking hell

I know the headline has to match post title. But it’s just doing that for them

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Musk dismissed the controversy, urging people not to overanalyze his actions.

Which one is it? Should people dismiss it or stop overanalyzing? Because the only way to dismiss it is to overanalyze.

Without overanalyzing, it was just plainly a Nazi salute.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

Finally a little more uplifting news, its good to hear people are doing something

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