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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Hey, community :)

I run a website that showcases the best open-source companies. Recently, I've added a new feature that filters self-hosted tools and presents them in a searchable format. Although there are other options available, like Awesome-Selfhosted, I found it difficult to find what I needed there, so I decided to display the information in a more digestible format.

You can check out the list here: https://openalternative.co/self-hosted

Let me know if there’s anything else I should add to the list.

Thanks!

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[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago

Love the list, but scrolling through, the one liners don't mean much for a lot of these.

The descriptions are just too short and vague to even understand what a lot of them actually do.

[-] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Noted! I have longer descriptions in the db, but didn't want to bloat the listings. Will try with a longer description soon.

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

It's a tough balance, you don't want a whole page for each one. Maybe if there was a clear list of tags so it's easier to understand even what category they're talking about?

For example:
Penpot
Design freedom meets open-source collaboration

I really don't know what this product category even is. Is it for web layout? Is it a drawing program? Is it for CAD?

[-] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Fair point. I'll try to add more context to the listings. Thanks!

[-] hydration9806@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe consider collapsible dropdowns or similar for the extra information

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

This is the solution. That way i can decide if i want to read more about one of them and then sinply open the dropdown.

[-] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

personally I love it when websites solve this problem with hover hints, theres something satisfying about seeing a paragraph of text on hover that just answers all my questions. not sure how that'd work for people viewing on mobile though

[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 3 points 2 weeks ago

No please, hover links are just useless to tablet and mobile users, anybody without a mouse actually!

[-] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Added just that! Thank you for the suggestion.

[-] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

anytime! just remember as @Shimitar@feddit.it pointed out, these will be useless for tablet and mobile users, so you may still need an additional solution!

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

A "more" button after the one liner would be very nice. Or make the one-liner a link that gives a longer description.

Thanks for the work. I've bookmarked it!

[-] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Added longer description and major alternative when you hover over the cards. Hope that'll make it easier to browse.

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[-] reinar@distress.digital 21 points 2 weeks ago

Appreciate the effort, but without categories it's not going to sail too far.
Right now it's just a long list of everything that it's out there, awesome-selfhosted is much more usable for looking up what you need.

Also, did you join any kind of affiliate programs/partnerships for these "10% off" green boxes? If so, would be great to disclose it. Nothing bad with getting some cash, but community will just appreciate the honesty.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago
[-] reinar@distress.digital 12 points 2 weeks ago

I stand corrected, thank you!

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[-] Arehandoro@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Jean_Mich_Much@jlai.lu 20 points 2 weeks ago

I'm tired of Cloudflare ... 😔

[-] mac@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I havent been able to load the cf verification on my android for like over a week now lol

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[-] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry about that, had to enable attack mode temporarily to fight bots. Should be fine now.

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

Never heard of 99% in that list.

Also, Gitea should not be there. It is a corporate -owned open core project that was hostilely taken away from the community.

[-] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 9 points 2 weeks ago

While I don't disagree with your sentiment, it seems like this list is just "self hosted open source alternatives". Even if there are better options, Gitea still falls under that definition, no?

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

It falls under self hosted, at least. If it is still truly open source is highly debatable.

[-] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't know that. Do you have more info/source?

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

There – of course – won’t be a singular official source stating “Hey guys, we’re open core now”. You need to put this together bit-by-bit.

Here are some links for research

  • Official statement on the takeover
  • Gitea Enterprise/Gitea Cloud hiding features behind a cloud solution and a paywall which makes Gitea itself open-core
  • Open Letter to the new Gitea owners with a summary and a reply, signed by a lot of Gitea devs and FOSS scene people.
  • As @gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone mentioned: A fork under the name Forgejo was done due to new Gitea owners did not care much about the concerns. (Started as asoft-fork but with 10.0 it became a hard fork.)
  • Gitea owners made it mandaroy to remove copyright headers and set the corporation as copyright holder. Here, here, and here
[-] gratux 10 points 2 weeks ago

Forgejo is the fork that sprung from this whole debacle. https://forgejo.org/2022-12-15-hello-forgejo/

[-] nottelling@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In addition to other suggestions, the cards need to show what they're alternative to without clicking.

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[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I wish more software wasn’t “hosted” these days.

I miss app ass apps.

Don’t mind me. I’m just feeling old.

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[-] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I love this idea, because I often have questions like this as I transition away from proprietary software to open source alternatives

I think listing what software equivalents it might replace listed in the card.

I do see its listed when you click on the info card in the main list, but having it be visible before that might be helpful.

I know a lot of people won't like the little ad cards when you do click on a software to review its page, but I think the way you implementted it is good. Its not intrusive and clearly states its an ad.

Edit: removed bit about categories.

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I do like the idea of adding the "this product replaces X, Y, or Z" in the info card without needing to click on it.

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's really surprising how fast people forget about the shady shit rustdesk has done.

[-] derek@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

Near as I understand it: years ago some dumb engineering decisions were made, acknowledged, and corrected. Is there some recent scandal I'm out of the loop on?

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[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I think it would be important to include current version information on the cards. For example, Pocketbase is still very much in beta and they make breaking changes pretty frequently.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe you wanna collaborate with selfh.st to complete each others list?

Edit: Looked at the list. Good job on the design and content. Bookmarked it :)

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[-] qaz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Why does it list Gitea instead of Forgejo?

[-] andreluis034@bookwormstory.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

What's wrong with gitea?

[-] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

So sorry for all the errors! I got crazy traffic to the website and the database is not holding on as it should. Will have to upgrade the server very soon🫡

[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't see any Fediverse platforms on there, how would you feel about adding them? Seems like they'd fit.

https://openalternative.co/categories/social-media

Could add Lemmy, Mastodon, MBin, PieFed, PixelFed, Loops, PeerTube, NodeBB...

[-] JPAKx4 4 points 2 weeks ago

Can you change the color of the ad badge? I'm fine with ads, but it blends in too well :/

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Your self hosted page should have the categories listed too.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Can you add Nephele to the list? It’s not a full fledged replacement for cloud storage, but with something like OwlFiles on your phone, it’s close. And it’s very useful.

https://hub.docker.com/r/sciactive/nephele

Also, I wrote it. :)

[-] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 2 points 2 weeks ago

There's a submission link on the top of the page

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I tried and I got the following error:

Invalid \`prisma.tool.findFirst()\` invocation: Can't reach database server at \`5.161.113.232:5432\` Please make sure your database server is running at \`5.161.113.232:5432\`.
[-] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ah yeah, fair enough.

@piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world you might want to look into disabling error reporting in production 👍

[-] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you all for the comments and the feedback! I've implemented most of the things reported. You can now filter the self-hosted tools by category directly in the filters. Tool cards should now show more info about the product on hover (longer description and the most popular alternative).

If you see anything else to improve, let me know.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

What self-hosted alternative would you recommend for document collaboration? Word processing docs, spreadsheets, pdf’s, etc.

I was using Nextcloud, but it’s not been as straightforward for file-sharing as I’d like, multiple people can’t work on a document at once, and it doesn’t save changes consistently (especially with fillable PDF’s).

[-] rjmalagon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Onlyoffice + Nextcloud. Is a little complex to self host the Onlyoffice Document server (the backbone of Onlyoffice collaboration), but it works very nice for multi user document collaboration, it even works on federated instances when using same document server.

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