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[-] Foni@lemm.ee 271 points 3 weeks ago

In other words, a company, acting on behalf of its own shareholders, tells a government, which represents 100% of the citizens in a given territory, to shove its legislation where the sun doesn’t shine. And not only is this not inherently absurd, but it also stands a significant chance of succeeding in getting the government to comply.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 165 points 3 weeks ago
[-] yggstyle@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago

They probably wouldn't have had to if the school system hadn't dropped language arts from most curriculums ages ago. Students now are getting a markedly shitter education and don't even know they're being fucked over.

[-] Letme@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

It's by design, the politicians only need 28% to win, easier to scrape those votes off the bottom of the barrel of knowledge

[-] yggstyle@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

What really stings is watching groups and communities which historically have been supportive of each other getting fragmented by overt social media operations. It's asinine and just makes it easier to marginalize and oppress the people that most frequently need a voice.

[-] Letme@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Our country is now run by Twitter and Truth Social, and too many people are already lost to social media disinformation campaigns (counter-intelligence)

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago

Feel like that speech would have meant more when he still had the power to do anything about it. Instead of going to war against this oligarchy he chose to cash his political capital on a rushed pull out of Afghanistan, and to kill a bunch of Palestinians.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Instead of going to war against this oligarchy he chose to cash his political capital on a rushed pull out of Afghanistan

I don't see how this is laid on Biden since Trump agreed to the withdrawal and timeline, and then R relentlessly hammered Biden for not getting on it, then relentlessly hammered him for the problems related to rushing it.

I agree with the rest of your comment.

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[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 56 points 3 weeks ago

It felt miraculous for me that, for a while, tech companies appeared to comply to regulation (doing the bare minimum, as slowly as possible, but it kinda worked).

My hypothesis is that they now except political support from Trump administration and to pressure the EU?

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

My hypothesis is that they now except political support from Trump administration and to pressure the EU?

Yes. We will now export our fascism, making it essentially just the same imperialism we've been engaged in forever.

[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To be fair, you haven't invented fascism.

Although, in France we have a sort of proverb that says that what happens in the US happens here 10 years later. I hope we will manage to dodge what's coming at us, this time...

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[-] AceSLS@ani.social 142 points 3 weeks ago

Good, hope they get banned in the EU so people will switch to competitors

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 67 points 3 weeks ago

I could see the EU backing down a few years ago, but these days they have watered down any actual advantage in search by filling their results with ads and low quality content. Not that I use Reddit any more, but a good Reddit search engine would probably be better for a lot of use cases.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Then you got people like Musk using their websites as foreign influence platforms to restore Nazis into power so I'd imagine there's an appetite for not being so reliant on the increasingly belligerent US media oligarchy, which itself is the victim of Fox News and Murdoch.

Plus everything is already enshittified anyway so easy to create better.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Luckily google bought exclusive rights to query Reddit

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Except reddit is all ai-generated bullshit now. Unless you search before 2024, searching reddit is literally useless, and that's all going to be out of date so quickly

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[-] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 102 points 2 weeks ago

Damn.

Wish the rest of us could just ignore all laws & not face any consequences.

What a fucking joke this entire system is.

[-] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 weeks ago

They don't have a problem giving someone 100 years for a quarter bag of weed though. For a first time offense.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 11 points 2 weeks ago

Oh that was long ago. it's for not having a baby if you're female now. Megacorps run usa and now the worst (which is best for some reason) ceo in the history of man will again be president and continue the clear path to government dismantling

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago

Given that we are going full authoritarian fascist now, perhaps the EU should ban Google, given the US tik tok precedent.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

What a twist. In the 90s, the internet forced countries to wake up to the new modern era. It was a combination of American companies wanting both to expand and provide goodwill.

And now, this new era is going to tell American companies to fuck off.

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

Democracies around the world rightly shouldn't tolerate the blatant corruption and manipulative business practice of American tech companies.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago

Google has told the EU that it will not comply with a forthcoming fact-checking law.

Perfect time to implement sky-high fines for non-compliance.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, but that's why US Big Tech is splooshing cash all over President Felon and hoping he saves them from evil communist European consumer protections.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, they're hoping Trump will pressure the EU to get rid of their pesky consumer protections. They don't even make any profits for billionaires!

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[-] oh_@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago

Time for EU to simply ban Google then for non compliance.

[-] timestatic@feddit.org 59 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fine the heck out of them then. If they don't pay the fine ban em. Plenty of alternatives out there. More competition in the search engine market would be better anyways.

Not too big of a fan of banning companies as the hurdles should be decently high... Especially if many people rely on their service but if they won't comply with our jurisdiction long term I see this as the only option as fees can not be order of business to pay

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[-] HaiZhung@feddit.org 52 points 2 weeks ago

I get the sentiment, who doesn’t want to dunk on Google?

But the headline is needlessly inflammatory. There is no law yet; and google essentially is saying please please don’t implement it, it totally doesn’t make sense.

Don’t get me wrong, the EU should still implement it. And once it is law; Google will also comply.

[-] Geobloke@lemm.ee 50 points 2 weeks ago

I hate community notes, it's a cost free way of fact checking with no accountability.

I also hate these big international tech companies. Forget too big to fail, these are too big to change. We are all techno peasants and they are our tech lords

[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

I hate community notes, it’s a cost free way of fact checking with no accountability.

I don't think it's necessarily bad, but it can be harmful if done on a platform that has a significant skew in its political leanings, because it can then lead to the assumption that posts must be true because they were "fact checked" even if the fact check was actually just one of the 9:1 ratio of users that already believes that one thing.

However, on platforms that have more general, less biased overall userbases, such as YouTube, a community notes system can be helpful, because it directly changes the platform incentives and design.

I like to come at this from the understanding that the way a platform is designed influences how it is used and perceived by users. When you add a like button but not a dislike button, you only incentivize positive fleeting interactions with posts, while relegating stronger negative opinions to the comments, for instance. (see: Twitter)

If a platform integrates community notes, that not only elevates content that had any effort at all made to fact check it (as opposed to none at all) but it also means that, to get a community note, somebody must at least attempt to verify the truth. And if someone does that, then statistically speaking, there's at least a slightly higher likelihood that the truth is made apparent in that community note than if none existed to incentivize someone to fact check in the first place.

Again, this doesn't work in all scenarios, nor is it always a good decision to add depending on a platform's current design and general demographic political leanings, but I do think it can be valuable in some cases. (This also heavily depends on who is allowed access to create the community notes, of course)

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[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

I hate community notes, it's a cost free way of fact checking with no accountability

And it lets certain communities brigade the notes with misinformation/disinformation to try and control the narrative.

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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Didn't a year ago or so, Some European lawmaker made a vague hint in support of something that involved regulations on social media, and Elon replied "go fuck yourself" verbatem?

Play hardball, or surrender and give them what they want. there's no compromise or middle ground with these techbro fascists

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Google is basically saying the EU couldn't do its own subpar search and they're not brave enough to try.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago

Fascism is good for business.

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[-] penguinclaw@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago

Unbelievable 2025 is turning out to be a stellar year

[-] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck Google

[-] Aurix@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

We need fact checkers more than community notes. Because disproving a claim takes a lot of time and skill, and notes will be abused for financial and personal gain in the long run. Perhaps it is also better to use the word content moderator instead of fact checker, as finding the ultimate truth isn't possible, unless you just present a mathematical proof.

[-] cupcakezealot 21 points 2 weeks ago

wish the eu would just actually ban american companies there is really no need for them anyway

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is definitely to avoid the ire of fuhrer trump. It's also coincidence that meta is abandoning fact checking right before the new administration

He will sic the dogs of regulation on them if they don't dance to his tune

[-] HertzDentalBar 15 points 2 weeks ago

Sovereign citizens are really getting out of hand. Oh wait it's google.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

Google, this is t he EU, not America, they're not going to suck up to you.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

And not a single bit of this would matter at all if YOU PEOPLE* would just know a damned thing!

*present company excepted, of course.

[-] Weeby_Wabbit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

France's tech sector: "Zis is mon' Chanz to shine!"

[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago

So, another “cookie banner” coming then, but this one says: “facts not checked”

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

God I hope this happens, it will be absolutely hilarious when the gcp services on which the EU infraestructure for telecommunications, research and development, industry, transportation, banking, agriculture, logistics and health is built up, crashes burning to the ground.

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