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The colors are added in, of course, with it being an electron microscope image. Another picture:

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 133 points 2 weeks ago

Its crazy how crude all of our tools look at this magnification.

[-] Catoblepas 74 points 2 weeks ago

Some medical tools look crude even at regular size… they don’t call orthopedics bone carpenters for nothing!

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People would never set foot in a hospital again if they found out how many orthopedic surgeries involve a dewalt drill at some point.

[-] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 weeks ago

My knee replacement was carried out with an epidural pain block, plus sedation. I came down from cloud nine briefly to wonder why someone was doing renovations while surgery was in progress - then realised all the drilling and hammering was my new joint going in. Phew! Back to lala land...

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao "oh shit I'm a house"

[-] Clearwater@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago
[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

That's great. I rotated through an ortho lab in the 1990s, and the joint replacement kits back then included a sterile, disposable drill that you were just supposed to throw out after the procedure.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I recently saw a knee replacement that used one of those ryobi oscillating cutters (the ones that were super trendy a few years back). Total garbage for home use, but man with a 3D printed cutting guide shaped to fit over the bone, they finished the osteo and arthroplasty portions in ten minutes flat. Just insane what we can accomplish when we combine modern volumetric imaging techniques with coupons for home depot.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Well at least they're not using a store brand.

My hospital buys from Harbor Freight!

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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

I've started calling folks taking X-rays the bone paparazzi.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

I guess that's better than calling neurosurgeons spaghetti artists

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I gained an appreciation for how precise/sharp our tools are when I learned microtomy. If you so much as touch the cutting edge with anything outside of its intended use it messes up that area of the blade instantly. Same goes for a nice pair of chef's knives.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I've had 2 ACL reconstructions, but the first knee surgery I had was a scope. The surgeon allowed me to stay awake and it was freaking awesome to watch the little grinder and vacuum at work!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, I wouldn't have been able to take that. I would have told them to put me the fuck out rather than have to see and hear it and realize that was my knee they were doing that to. Even though it was to make things better.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

I believe it’s damaged by piercing the skin, it’s pristine before.

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

Yet it emphasizes just how precisely tiny the tip of the needle is.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

for this magnification it is actually pretty smooth

source: I have used an SEM at my university and never saw something this smooth even at higher magnifications

of course I didn't look at medical tools but this shows that they are crafted very precisely

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 64 points 2 weeks ago

Crude aspects of fleshy meatbags.

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I crave the certainty of steel.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 66 points 2 weeks ago

certainty of steel.

Yeah.. take a few material courses in engineering...

It's not so certain a lot of the time...

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago

I crave the certainty of neutronium

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

The purity of the blessed machine

Glory to the Omnissiah

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago

The flesh is weak, but deeds endure

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

username is Gork

haha yes I am very human too and i too hate it when my skin gets damaged and needs to be replaced because it invokes a feeling called pain and it is a very unpleasant feeling

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

See that little hook at the point? This is from penetrating skin ONCE.

This is why you don't re-use needles folks!

[-] chetradley@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

There are other reasons.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

I can't believe it's that fine or how easily human skin can bend it. I guess our skin is a better protector than I'd given credit.

All these images are super interesting and I'm truly glad they got posted.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

This is fascinating. I mean we all know the theory, but to actually see the cells under magnification puts you in range, and makes you wonder what else there is to know. And the answer is always MORE.

Education should work more practical application in with the theory. I'm looking at you, calculus!

[-] mwproductions@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Seriously. I'm in my 40s and this is the first time I've ever had any sense of scale for red blood cells. Very cool!

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[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 22 points 2 weeks ago

Mmmmm red caviar ... 😋

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

how were the colours added? like do you carefully select each isolated cell to add the colour or is there some kind of algorithm?

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

When I segmented 3D MRI and CT scan images before I used the contrast borders for help a lot. There were some algorithms for finding edges that you could tune by setting search radiuses and thresholds. There was also an option of growing an area by a certain amount of pixels outward, and then threshholding the result back down to only the brighter parts, that kind of thing. You had to be a little clever about how you'd combine it. And ultimately, sometimes I just had to add and subtract a few points manually.

Segmenting is more assigning areas to distinct objects (separating bones from the rest in my case), but you could totally use it as a basis for coloring, so I assume the process is similar here.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

These are manufactured differently from most of the stuff you'd be looking at.

Rather than milling and grinding, the needles are made from a sheet of stainless that's rolled and welded, then drawn down to whatever size it needs to be, basically stretching the material out. Kinda like when you make a snake with silly puddy and pull it apart.

Then the points are ground in. Gives you a ridiculously smooth finish.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

Interesting info, thanks!

But I think you may have accidentally typed in the wrong thread? I was talking about the image manipulation, not the manufacturing :-)

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[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 15 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for the caption. My fist thought was “how did they take this photo in color?!?”

[-] Snothvalpen 3 points 2 weeks ago

I actually thought optical microscopy worked just fine at this scale.

I know it's not the case for this photo, but if a 7 μm red bloodcell is reflecting red light (700nm, aka 0.7μm) under a bright white light, wouldn't the smallest discernable detail of the red blood cells be about a 10th of its width? Is that not roughly the detail we have in this image?

I'm making an assumption that the distance between discernable parts roughly parallels the wavelength's width. I could be wrong tho

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

I want to eat a red blood cell. Like one the size of my hand that tastes like a gummy bear

[-] LemmyFeed@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Can't you just eat some real gummy bears? I think they even make big ones.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Frighteningly big.

Please do not buy your child a gummy bear bigger than their head. We have enough problems with diabetes as it is.

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[-] magikmw@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Would probably taste like a rusty nail, but gummy.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It'd probably be like eating a raw egg with most of the shell removed.

[-] wheres_frank@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like Nerds. Nerds running the whole operation.

[-] Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Nerds always run the whole operation 🤓

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder what gauge needle that is?

[-] Insolentjellyfish@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

At very rough estimate, I would guess a 30 gauge needle. They have an outer diameter of .31 mm. A blood cell is about 7 micrometer across. It looks like you can fit more a smidge fewer than 50 cells across the thickest part of this needle. Cheers!

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

As a type 1 diabetic I really hate this

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, some manufacturers of needles have less stringent QA than others. Moved to a new area and the local NHS disallow my usual brand due to cost... Will get to try something else... Hopefully not too bad...

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