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Like, you just look weird if you sitting by yourself (example: waiting at a bus stop) and just stairing into space, so like its basically social expectation to be on your phone when you are by yourself.

Plus, just feels like if you don't have a phone on you, you are missing a lot of information (access to the internet, maps, etc.) that you might need in case you get lost or something.

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[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 months ago

I don't even know how I survived the 90s. When you were waiting for the bus the most entertaining thing you could do was stare at your shoes or throw a rock at the stop sign

[-] Benjaben@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

The boredom was real, but also like...thoughts would turn over in undirected and sometimes fruitful ways, too. At least for me. My mind does far less just "idling" these days, and while too much of that is a real kind of misery, I think some is probably useful.

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

When I have idle time for thoughts to enter my brain is when bad things happen.

[-] Benjaben@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Heard lol, it's not a universal good

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago
[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Or a handheld... Those ones still exist... Thankfully.

Even nowadays I don't feel "entertained" when forcing myself to use the smartphone when I am in waiting situation outside...

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

How could I have forgotten gameboy

[-] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I pretty much always have a handheld with me. I have this fear that I'll randomly get forcibly stuck somewhere for half an hour and will need to bust it out. Usually it's my R36S, but sometimes it's a Vita, or a PSP 1000. If I'm feeling especially nostalgic, a modded Gameboy Color.

They come in super handy at lunch, grocery store lines, and when my kid falls asleep on me.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

You had to pick up rocks on the way in case there weren't any good ones at the bus stop. Or you'd have to ask people there if they had any spare rocks. So embarrassing.

[-] urata@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I do not. I don't feel awkward necessarily just sitting there doing nothing but I also tend to avoid situations where I am like that because I do get bored and impatient fairly easily. I also just don't like phones. I don't do much with mine other than the things I find very useful like calls, text messaging and maps. I much prefer my PC whenever possible.

I'm American, and I'm 40. I didn't have a mobile phone until I was like 19 and didn't have a smartphone until I was probably about 28 or something.

I understand why people would feel awkward without their phones for sure. Especially if that's what they are used to. I used to smoke cigarettes and I remember kinda feeling silly just standing there not smoking after I quit.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

My pockets feel unusual. Same when going out without a wallet. Constantly feel like I left them somewhere.

[-] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I was on the metro recently and didnt feel like using my phone. tried to zone out into space but kept feeling like people were looking at me funny, noticing I wasn't looking down at a phone. made me feel so u comfortable I took my phone out and forced myself to use it for the next 20 mins

feeling like people were looking at me funny, noticing I wasn’t looking down at a phone

Lmfao, this is exactly what I was taking about

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Whereas my response to that situation is to want to do anything but that. Who wants to be just another sheep squinting zombielike at a screen?? I will never get it.

[-] Boozilla@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

No. I'm an 80s kid. It's kind of nice once in a while to forget it.

I imagine people with their phone in their faces while shopping, walking their dogs, etc. must have max anxiety over even the fleeting thought of not having their precious.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I'm 50, old enough to remember when we didn't have answering machines or call waiting or anything, and yet I can't go to the kitchen to stir my tea without my phone. I'm not saying it's good. To be fair I do read a lot of books on it though.

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

I feel weird if I'm taking a shit and I don't have my phone with me, forget about leaving the house without it.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago

Time to study air freshener first aid.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

it feels liberating

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago

I leave my phone behind now and again so I don't feel the obligation to always be reachable, a privilege I'm sure. I don't often get lost but I speak the local language so I can just ask a stranger if I do. I absolutely don't find it weird if someone's alone and not looking at a phone and don't think anyone around me does, though I've never been one to care about that sort of thing anyway. I've intentionally removed all the timewasting apps from my phone as well, namely social media and news and all that.

[-] Mosfar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

A bit, I need it for contactless payments as in my country we use eletronic payments for almost everything

[-] Libb@jlai.lu 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Do you feel weird/anxious if you go outside and don't have a phone with you?

Nope. I sometimes forget my phone at home, no big deal I seldom use it. And even when I don't forget it I have zero social apps or games installed on it, not even email ;)

I only use it to pass phone calls and to manage IDs and finances (and it's only because my banks all require me to use their stupid apps, I would gladly tell them to go funk themselves but I need to be able to access my accounts).

What I never forget and I never hesitate to use whan I have the opportunity is a pocket book, so I always have something to read (without distraction, aka no Internet) and a pocket notebook/pen so I can write stuff (without any distraction, bugs, updates or whatever...) and in both case without any worry about being tracked.

so like its basically social expectation to be on your phone when you are by yourself.

Is it? And then people are surprised they're exhausted, and constantly anxious and/or angry at one another? Doom scrolling is poison for the mind and for the soul. I'd rather look around, or speak with people.

you are missing a lot of information

Do I? Well, so far it has not caused me much issues.

that you might need in case you get lost or something.

When that happens, I ask my way around to people. It sometime is a nice opportunity to start a real conversation ;)

edit: typos and clarification.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Broke my phone like two months ago and sent it in to get it repaired, which took about a month. I only had my work phone as emergency backup, so I basically didn't have a phone during most of that time.

Well, staring into space while waiting for the bus seems to be the convention where I live, so I didn't feel weird in that regard.
I did have some invasive thoughts, like what if you need to call emergency services and can't? Haven't needed that so far in my life and the chance of no one else with a phone being around is pretty slim, but the thought entered my mind anyways.

Well, and then I do use my phone for navigating public transport, for finding out where I need to go in case I ever get lost and then also just as a shopping list.
Shopping list is easy to replace with a sheet of paper. Navigating public transport had me suddenly looking at the hangouts in the various stations. It's certainly not the same as having an algorithm tell you the quickest route, but you can find a lot of information there and you will find a route, which is good enough.
Not having a map is something that had me kind of just not take larger trips. I guess, if I had been without a phone for longer, I would've gotten used to that, too. Like, you can ask people, some of which might have a phone with a map on it themselves even.

Generally speaking, after the first few days, I did not miss my phone as much as I thought. I found it somewhat liberating even.

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago

I only get as awkward as the distance travelled

I'd be fine going to the mall, bit iffed since I don't have music to accompany me

I'd be damned if I visit hierapolis without my phone on me, fuck knows how I'll get back if I also lose my wallet

[-] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

I feel weird if I go to the kitchen and don't have a phone with me. Then again, I'm weird, so having a phone with me may not be the issue.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

No. It's not hard to entertain myself by simply observing the world around me and daydreaming.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

My take-out burrito wasn't ready on-time and I forgot my phone in my vehicle. I had to look at posters on the wall while I waited! Please pray for me, it was awful and I'm still traumatized.

[-] LemoineFairclough@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I don't feel weird if I'm just walking around in front of my home. I occasionally forget to bring a phone with me when I go outside, but if I remember I'll go back and get one.

If I managed to get to a grocery store or bus stop without a phone, I would probably feel stupid and still do whatever I wanted to do outside, but then go directly home rather than doing another errand.

I have no problem with staring into space or looking around rather than looking at a phone. I have mobile data, but I rarely use it nowadays, and I only have one somewhat boring game application installed on my phone.

I don't go to many places, and it's even rarer for me to travel through multiple municipalities, so I just remember how to get to the places I often want to go, and if I was going to a distant location I'd be even more likely to notice if I forgot my phone since I'd probably want to set up navigation before leaving. I use OsmAnd for navigation so it's not a problem if I don't have access to the internet, and I'm used to navigating without using the internet so navigating entirely without a phone is probably easier for me than for some people.

[-] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

For the second yes, but mostly because I get lost very easily. The first not really, many people outside are not on their phones.

If you take public transport, everyone is on their phones. Well maybe not exactly on their phone but some are listening to music/podcast via headphone/earbuds that are playing on their phone.

Maybe you live in a rural area and people are less attached, but in cities, everyone is addicted af.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago

If I take public transport, then I look outside the window.

Hmm, maybe on a bus or train above ground. On a subway, there's nothing besides the dark void of the tunnels.

[-] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago

Nah I live in a medium sized city and it's not everyone. There are many people with headphones sure and some are doing things on their phone. There are also many people not doing anything or looking out the window (when in busses). It may have to do with demographics, it's mostly older people who aren't doing anything and teenagers in groups who spend the whole ride talking and that's a big part of public transport users so they affect the general image.

For what it's worth I probably bring the phone usage up cause I read on my phone but you can do that with a physical book and there are some people doing that too.

[-] Libb@jlai.lu 1 points 2 months ago

Maybe you live in a rural area and people are less attached, but in cities, everyone is addicted af

I live in Paris, France (hopefully enough of a city to qualify?) but I'm not 'addicted af' (not at all, for that matter) and neither is my spouse, nor are quite a few of the people we know ;)

That said I also see a lot of people walking looking at their screen, bicycling looking at their screen, driving and looking at their screen. And I see a lot of accidents too. I wonder, could there be a link?

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

About a decade ago, I fell and broke my ankle while out running.

It was only by sheer chance that this happened around a bunch of people, and I was able to get help immediately. If I'd been out somewhere else or at a different time, I would have been absolutely fucked.

Since that day, I never leave the house without my phone, ever.

(if I'm hiking somewhere out of range, then I map out my route and ensure that someone else knows where I'll be)

if I’m hiking somewhere out of range

FYI, there are satalite messengers that have cheaper monthly costs than a satellite phone (they use text only, no voice calls).

Also there are satellite personal locator beacons that have no monthly fee, so you can just keep one around in your hiking backpack. And press the emergency button if you need help. (You have to register the beacon beforehand to have it ready for use) Downside of these locator beacons compared to a satelite phone/messenger is that you cannot communicate what help you need. (Example: you can't tell them if you got bitten by a venomous snake so they won't know until they get to you and that might be too late)

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I actually got a locator beacon recently.

I can't really justify the cost of a two-way one given how rarely I go anywhere properly remote, but the little one-button boxes make for huge peace of mind. And honestly if I get bitten I'd likley be just as fucked with or without a conversation :D

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

I've recently had to force myself to pay more attention to my phone. I keep putting it down and forgetting it for many hours at a time. I have to get better or one of these days I'm going to have left it outside my home or car, it's only a matter of time.

[-] Daze@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, very anxious. I dread being in any situation where I won't at least have an opportunity to dial for emergency services.

[-] PostnataleAbtreibung@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No. I usually read books anyway, and i tend to forget my phone very often. So nothing unusual.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 2 months ago

Bring a book or newspaper/magazine. Those people are the minority but it's still fairly common to see people read on the train or at the bus stop.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Only because I help to take care of my mom so if she calls and I don't answer... That could be bad

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

If it's just a local trip, I don't really care, as long as I'm confident I just left it somewhere at home. Sometimes feels awkward on the bus because everyone besides the local homeless person or the group riders talking to each other is on their phone, but it's fine.

If I'm somewhere unfamiliar I can get very paranoid as I worry if I dropped it, it got stolen, or if something else happens I wouldn't know where to go.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Nah.

I carry a stungun and that's enough for me. My NY resolution is actually to not carry my phone everywhere.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I haven't had a phone in years.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, it is odd these days.

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