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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I love that comfortable, coffe house vibe of 'get the fuck out', really helps me relax while reading a book or sketching or brainstorming, or waiting to meet up with a friend.

... I get the idea that basically no one in this thread has ever been to an old school, independent coffee shop that basically operates like a pub, ya'll act like everything is a fast food restaurant.

Go watch Friends, or something, and see if you notice how coffee houses used to be places you could just hang out and chill in basically all day untill close if you wanted to.

Its not just a contrivance to make the show work.

That kind of environment used to actually exist.

I used to go to one that just had an entire two and a half floors lined with books on all sorts of topics you could just pop open and read for 3 hrs, no purchase necessary, other people used to do school projects their, bring their laptop and do a days worth of remote work...

This was the original vibe of Starbucks, the original idea, like company mission statement, was to bring that chill, relaxed hangout atmosphere from Seattle and export it.

... But, over 20 years or so, it did just become another fast food restaurant, and now this is apparently so hypernormalized that I feel like the last living hipster or something, telling ancient stories of yore like a hippe explaining woodstock...

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

We need more buildings that are like public parks. A big open and inviting space with tables and benches and power outlets free for anyone to use.

Libraries are nice for studying but you can't eat and drink in there or chat with friends and family. I can't think of any public spaces that really reflect what a coffee shop could provide.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago

They're called pubs, but I guess in the US they made them hostile to anyone who isn't interested in getting hammered.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure a pub would ask you to leave if you didn't buy anything

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 3 weeks ago

A chain that has historically built its business in being a cool place to hang out, now quadrupling down on being the lamest, most obnoxious place on earth...

We'll see how that goes

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 weeks ago

Starbucks is the dominoes of coffee. I have never been to a local coffee shop that had worse coffee than a starbucks, and it's usually cheaper.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

I like dominos tho ๐Ÿ˜…

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Do you live in the midwest or some other pizza desert that doesn't have local, cheap, quality pizza places?

[-] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 31 points 3 weeks ago

Not surprising from a store that infamously doesn't let you use their bathrooms unless you buy something.

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'll give it a few months or so before this is reverted.

[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] indomara@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is interesting, I'm currently in Japan and noticed the Starbucks here are huge with many tables and chairs and they are packed with people sitting and reading, doing homework, etc. Many don't have drinks or appear to hang out there all day.

Why has America made everything so hostile?

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