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submitted 4 days ago by Sunshine@lemmy.ca to c/fedimemes@feddit.uk

I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

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[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 4 hours ago

This is now the community's Top All Time post.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

It beat the simpsons bar one!

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 6 minutes ago

Yeah, kicked that back into third!

[-] kokopelli@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Honestly, I would use Lemmy more except that some posts are just people being overly negative or strangely political in the comments. There are good communities without this don’t get me wrong but it can get old

[-] m4xie 1 points 1 day ago

I've found a massive reduction after blocking only a handful of users. It seems there are fewer of them than it first appears.

[-] kokopelli@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I might have to do that then, thanks! Might make my experience a bit better.

Also something I didn’t think about, there are enough users on Reddit to let the garbage comments sink to the bottom and not be seen. Here, you see them all

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Feel free to chime in on this thread, it's a proposal to solve this exact issue: https://lemmy.world/post/24268267

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah a lot of people on here have sticks up their butts hehe

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 114 points 3 days ago

I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

No, they haven't. 99% of people have never heard of the fediverse or any app within it.

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago

People here are so out of touch here; it's super interesting

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 49 points 3 days ago

In a way, it's a good sign. The threadiverse is tight-knit and comprehensive enough to become people's primary social site. I've never seen any other reddit alternative get to this point.

[-] MrShankles@reddthat.com 11 points 3 days ago

It became my primary. Had never heard/understood federated-internet anything before lemmy. And it's been a really good time here

Reddit is now just a Quora for me, when I'm using a search engine. I don't scroll Instagram, but just look at what (3) people send me. Facebook is for rare use-cases, so I haven't deleted my account. YouTube I watch, rarely scroll, and don't interact. And I think that's about it currently

Lemmy has it's own issues/flavor for sure... but I dig it. I learned my first forum basics from Something Awful, and there's a certain vibe here that reminds me of that. The fediverse (threadiverse? I haven't heard that term) feels like an internet community center or something

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[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I told everyone in my family, and it was one ear and out the other.

My sister told me the other day, "I didn't know I could add reddit it to my Google search and get better results." All I could think is, "you figured that out right when everything went to shit, damn."

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[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If all the average users were here, it would be just as awful as Reddit became when it hit mainstream acceptance level.

Remember that subreddits there were quality when small but sort of became too large to have character after a certain threshold, I seem to recall 300k subscribers and up being about where that delineation was.

Lemmy could stand to be more popular, but not too popular or it would attract the bottom feeders that make stupid one liner comments and upvote wrong answers.

Enjoy the smaller lemmy while it lasts

Edited for clarity, gotta drop the reddit shorthand

[-] WeUnite@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Shut up and take my upvote.

r/angryupvote

/s of course.

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[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 17 points 3 days ago

Honestly, if I weren't politically as far left as I am, lemmy would have scared me off a long time ago.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And you need to be a particular kind of weird person to sift all the random posts. The average user actually wants an algorithm.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 17 points 3 days ago

You're talking about people that are content with "the internet" being google, facebook, instagram, snap, tiktok, youtube and twitter, nothing more.

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[-] Goodie@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

In other words: Advertising works.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

Yeah, a lot of people have quit Twitter over Musk being a huge douche and migrated to... Blusky. And they think they've done something really great. It's sad.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 45 points 4 days ago

To be fair, Twitter is so bad now that Bsky is an improvement.

And Bsky has to appear trustful as they need to attract users.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 25 points 3 days ago

That's how they all begin.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago

Of course, but if the most urgent priority is to get people off Twitter, then Bsky is a better alternative at the moment.

Hopefully at some point Mastodon and Keyforks will catch up on discoverability

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Mastodon is not a twitter clone.

Bluesky is a twitter clone, without musk. That's all these people want. They've never heard about the fediverse. They're not protesting corporate centralism.

They just don't like twitter being a right wing agenda. They want a twitter experience circa before musk bought it, simply because it was left wing before.

That's bluesky. That's not mastodon.

[-] Godort@lemm.ee 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bluesky is...fine. Currently, it operates the way that I wish Twitter did. It lets you curate your feed, it shows the feed in chronological order, and finally and most importantly it has a critical mass of users so there is actual content there, rather than every 5th post complaining about how everyone is on another platform or not using Linux.

Really, the only issue I have with it is that it is owned by a corporation. But like Twitter and Reddit, I am willing to abandon it for something else when it gets shittier.

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

The alternatives are annoying to sign up on and letting the community be in charge just leads to hate speech being allowed. Which tbh also is an issue with traditional social media but there at least they are reliant on advertisers so they have an interest in controlling it.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

When I have seen hate speech and slurs on here, it’s been in screenshots of big corporate social media.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I wish that lemmy had the population to sustain more niche communities.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago

Feel free to come help us promote it on https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/

[-] PM_me_your_doggo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I have a feeling that spez was an ordinary man when he started reddit. Then he became an asshat, of course.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I can't even blame spez for becoming that asshat. Trying to ride herd on something as large, diverse, and popular as reddit has become, requires someone who is willing to be an asshat.

If you ever find yourself in charge a group of diverse people remember that you will never satisfy everyone. And a lot of the time the best you can hope for is to piss off everyone equally.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Do you think you can be benevolent and also not try to satisfy everyone

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

You can be benevolent, but you can't satisfy everyone. Those are two different things. I can care about people, but I can't feed every starving person. I can work to rescue as many as I can, but I cannot save everyone.

And the larger the group you are trying to lead, the less likely it is that you can satisfy the needs of all of them. And sometimes, you might even need to be cruel in the moment to be kind over the long run to do the most good.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

But you dont have to actively try to make it worse

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

That coke-rush is just temporary and afterwards, leaves you feeling like this:

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago

Obligatory reference to SNL's parody take, though more for Oscar the Grouch: https://youtu.be/kqpak5lFxvs.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 3 days ago

It's unfortunate, but there's a real chicken-and-egg problem here. Those of us who are on here are here because of how strongly we believe in the ideal of it, but for the average person who just cares about talking about their favourite interests, there's a serious lack.

I'll use two examples, one that you clearly care about, and one that I do. /r/stopkillinggames is hardly super active, but in the last 3 weeks it's had 11 posts with a cumulative 68 comments. !stopkillinggames@lemm.ee, by contrast, has had just 8 posts, all by a mod, with just 6 total comments. /r/AgeofMythology is very active with artistic appreciation posts, balance discussion, and advice just within the last 24 hours. !aom@lemm.ee has failed to attract a single post from anyone other than myself, and it's been over 3 months since anyone other than myself has left a comment. It's disheartening, not being able to have conversations about the stuff you love, when you know that just over there it would be so easy.

Lemmy's excellent if you want to talk about politics, or open source, but there's not a huge amount outside of that. The Star Trek communities are pretty good, but they pale in comparison to a great sub like /r/daystrominstitute, and the amount and depth of discussion on ttrpg.network is slim compared to /r/pathfinder2e, /r/dndgreentext, /r/dndnext, etc. And these are some of the best-supported hobbies on Lemmy.

So as much as I'm staying here and trying to do my part to make it better, and frequently encourage others to join...I also can't really blame people who don't.

(I feel less charitably towards people on Twitter. Because that place is a total shithole, and Mastodon is surprisingly good, if you like microblogging platforms. Plus even Bluesky is better than staying on Twitter, and it has most of the celebrities and micro-celebrities some people might want to follow.)

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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

As a non tech expert, in my view, the biggest concern for the fediverse to grow, presently, is how difficult it can be to sign up.

Go to a instance listing, try and choose one, signup... all of this should be acessible but mostly invisible for the average user. The user should only be questioned what sort of content they mostly intend to browse, have a NSFW explicit option, perhaps a server location preference, and that should be it.

Beneath the hood, this process should trigger a call to the network requesting a user slot for any server that could cater to that generic profile the prospect user filled. Even bans should be handled differently, in my opinion.

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