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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago

Boy howdy, I sure can't wait for 99.9% of all manufacturers on Earth to completely ignore this as well, and keep selling devices and cables that are completely unlabeled.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I mean, you aren’t wrong. Good luck trying to get Apple to put a label on anything.

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

But they'll still sell you a $180 USB C cable that's no different than one you can get for $75 and has all of it's labels.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Pick a different scapegoat; Apple's one of the better ones in this area

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Name one Apple cable that has any type of text on it. Or computer for that matter. They do simple. It’s not in their design.

[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Stuff that's spec compliant has to follow the rules, non-spec compliant stuff can obviously do whatever, so yeah the cheap cables off ebay or amazon won't use the right logos.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 month ago
[-] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's actually different and better as the previous naming scheme was actually horrendous (trying to explain it to customers was a nightmare).

Cause previously if you wanted to figure out what speed of USB port you were getting you'd have to look up the table because me telling you that a port was USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 doesn't tell you jack shit.

Can you see how cursed this is for non-tech savvy people? Absolutely terrible.

Thankfully now the new naming scheme will be:
USB +

  • 5 Gbps
  • 10 Gbps
  • 20 Gbps
  • 40 Gbps

So the xkcd meme actually isn't relevant here.

Edit:
Revised grammar in the first sentence

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Techies have a hard time understanding that just because you can look up some speeds easily doesn't mean jack shit for regular joe trying to buy an usb-c cable.

Having data speed and wattage indicated on the cable is important, but for most people simply the data speed is enough.

[-] essteeyou@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I can't remember the last time I cared about data speed for a USB cable, but charging speed is useful when I'm charging my phone before leaving the house.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Once again, you are probably at least somewhat technical and understand wattage, do you think joe schmoe does? Or do they just charge their phone more often?

[-] drosophila 3 points 1 month ago
[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 43 points 1 month ago

But what about my shiny Certified USB 3.2 Gen1x2 Legendary SS+?

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

The cable names sound like gacha pulls.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 month ago

("legendary" and "shiny" aren't actually part of the name but SS+ is and it stands for SuperSpeed+. which is super-a-gacha pull

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Oh I know, but they aren't helping themselves with their naming schemes.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 month ago

yeah i just felt i had to add a little note lol

[-] wax@feddit.nu 4 points 1 month ago

Does shiny mean it's gold-plated? :⁠-⁠)

[-] 3laws@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago
[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Audiophile USB cable. If you are buying that I have some rocks to sell to you.

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[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm using a printer cable from 2006 to send audio out to my DAC. Sounds pretty fucking good.

[-] Knuschberkeks@leminal.space 7 points 1 month ago

I have connected my printer with a 120€ audiophile cable, and I tell you the prints are just a lot sharper. It gives the text a lot more air , especially around the serifs. Times New Roman looks especiallygood with it.

[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Thank fuck, a simple and clear marking that an average user can understand! I assume displayport compatible ports will still have that symbol, which is fine. Soon I'll be and to price out laptops that will work with a docking station without needing to read the damn manuals!

[-] kipo@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

There are too many standards. Let’s make a new one so we can consolidate them all.

There are now N + 1 standards.

[-] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

This isn't a new standard. It's changing the naming conventions to make sense.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

We're adding new, different symbols to the confusing mess of old symbols and keeping both? Neat!

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

And whatever you buy is just going to be labeled as the fastest even if it doesn't actually meet the standard.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

"Up to" is fine for this, as it's a measure of capacity. It's when it's used as an expected norm like the ISPs do that it becomes more marketing than a rating. The requirement ought to be a known average of realistic usage and not a top end number.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Fucking finally

[-] Toldry@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I'm still trying to find a good beard trimmer and electric toothbrush that charge with USB-C.

These are the only gadgets i have left that aren't charged with USB-C.

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What is high-speed USB suppose to be? No speed just for charging?

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

From what I recall high-speed USB was USB 2.0, mostly that is used today for stuff like mice or keyboards where speed isn't really all that relevant.

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago

High-speed is actually low-speed, got it

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Well, USB 2.0 did 480 MBit/s IIRC compared to USB 1.0 1.5 MBit/s and 1.1 12 MBit/s

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Jeez they still fell short there. Why can't they just go through the whole thing mark every other speed.

[-] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ibf it was high-speed at the time, we've just surprised it since... Super-duper speed.

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

High Definition video is still 720p

[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's USB2, so either for charging or simpler devices that don't need USB3 (Like keyboards).

Edit: Federation issue? I swear there wasn't an existing reply when I responded.

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

90% of USB cables are 480Mbps and it's not even included. This will be useless.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 1 month ago

That would be USB 2.0 and is pretty safe to assume that all USB ports and cables support this (If you can find a USB 1.0 or 1.1 port I'll be impressed). Why bother with a 480Mbps logo if it's the default minimum?

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Couldn't give a fuck about speed labelling, how about wattage?

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Well, it took like 10 years to get this far sooo probably sometime around 2038

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

I thought the G number meant how many Gb’s I could store in the cable

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

No thanks. I'll wait for USB to develop their own writing and language first. They will get there one day.

[-] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Isn’t that naming like a few years old? I already have a cable with 40 gbps 240 W on it

[-] ninjakttty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

So I was curious because these new logos drop the wattage. From the one of the links to another pcworld article they have an image with the new logo but both the wattage and the speed. https://www.pcworld.com/article/2572128/an-updated-usb-logo-will-now-mark-the-fastest-docking-stations.html If all they did was change the shape of the logo that’s total garbage.

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