People who have never been to L.A. really have no idea how insanely huge it is. Driving to my apartment from the start of city (before you even get to L.A. county) and having the city just keep going and going and going for two hours and not because of traffic jams is something you have to experience to truly understand.
It sure is a good thing that land elects presidents.
Don't forget Senators too!
How else would the slave-owning states have the slavery powers they so needed?!?
It's also a good thing those shitty presidential candidates come from major population states too. Trump has never lived Nebraska and Harris didn't grow up in northern Minnesota.They both come from states where the real power and money reside.
LA seems to have so much amazing culture but it is drowning in an addiction to cars perhaps worse than almost any other US city and it totally turns me off from going. edit, I didn't mean this as a dig at the average person in LA I literally mean the city itself
I have flown over the endless sprawl and traffic jams on approach to LAX and like vomits in trash can nope. It looks like 1000% the kind of city where it takes at least an hour to get somewhere no matter how close on paper it is.
It is a phenomena of a place, and easily creates and does more to make the world better than all of those rural conservative states combined I just wish it wasn't a car hellscape so I actually desired to visit.
It seems like LA has been making serious progress on becoming more walkable, so I am excited to see where it goes though!
Holy hell the urban sprawl is insane
Just grid for hundreds of miles around
It's nothing specific to LA, it's what any city with that population and a car centered infrastructure turns into.
I know that's probably what you meant, just wanted to add a bit o' clarity.
as an expert on the topic of los angeles (i spent 3 days there, many years ago), i can confirm that it is exactly the kind of city where every drive takes 1 hour. if you have to get on the highway to go somewhere, you better cancel your plans for the evening because your new plan is to sit in traffic forever.
Taking the idea further, it is notable that the entire population of California is smaller than that of Tokyo.
Tokyo is also unfathomable large, but the most astonishing thing is the amount of people. Tokyo has about 10 times the population of L.A. on an area of the same size. Of course there's traffic jams too, but not as bad as in L.A., because the metro system is a lot more efficient than the highways. During rush hour each train carrying thousands of people depart from each station every 2-3 minutes. You have to see it to believe it.
I was in Tokio last year and it's really amazing. I have never seen such perfect efficiency and punctuality, and I'm German! A huge factor though is that all the people follow the rules and are mindful of everybody else. Nobody standing in the way, nobody pushing or shoving other people. Also, despite being a mindboggingly huge metropolis, there seem to be hardly any traffic jams. The world could learn a lot from Japan concerning transport.
One of the big reasons we can’t have nice things in the US. High speed rail, for instance. There’s just plain old NIMBY, to start. Concern over property values. Then eminent domain. Then the lawyers drag it through courts over whatever argument because billable hours. We haven’t even looked at what expensive safeguards are necessary because every idiot will try to get around the rail crossing restrictions or do shit to the tracks thanks to “me first” and a complete lack of social responsibility like Japan displays in this context. Then every fool politician will try to starve it of funds because good public transportation costs money, and we can’t have evil taxes happening when you should buy a car or pay for an airline ticket. Hundreds of millions spent and we can’t even get started thanks to people just placing their wallets and special interests first.
There is no reason to push and shove and stand in front of the door to get in before letting people out if there is a train every 3 min. Seen the same in Singapore. You arrive at the station, see your train is already there but you dont care. You dont run you dont rush because it doesn't matter. You just take the next one
I've had the same experience in Copenhagen. Their metro is fully automated, and the schedule is published as "one train every x minutes during rush hour, every y minutes otherwise", which is very nice. You just turn up at the station knowing you'll only have to wait that many minutes. The automation takes it to the next level as well, because the trains run on this schedule through the night.
Even though Tokio is absolutely massive, it's just a nice place to be. Not loud or overly crowded (apart from the tourist spots). Its clean and you feel safe. You also don't feel like you'll get scammed on every corner
If you come to Taiwan, we are exactly the same.
Paris is quite insane too, smaller but with an insane number of inhabitants per square km. Their metro isn't as clean but ut shuffles people around for sure, 650.000 passenger per day for metro number 13 for example. Or so it was when I lived there.
LA does not have a bigger population than Georgia, and probably not Michigan and a few others. Map is bs.
Still, a shitload of people in trouble rn
California, Texas, Florida , New York , Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio , Georgia, North Carolina, and Michigan are the ten states that aren't less populated than LA county, to save anyone else who's curious from needing to look it up.
2 senators each.
Even worse is the electoral college distribution among those populations. And the winner-take-all nature of our presidential elections
is something you have to experience to truly understand.
I'm sorry I'm too European-public-transport to even want to understand, darling
I don't blame you for that. I would also never go to L.A. as a tourist unless I knew someone to actually show me around the city and know where to take me.
Otherwise you think that it's worth doing things like walking down Hollywood Boulevard and seeing the Chinese Theater and it really isn't unless you actually plan to go watch a movie there. And even then, there's better options.
(That said, the only time I went, I got invited to the Aliens vs. Predator premiere and we ate really potent cannabis brownies beforehand and I was so high I barely remember anything about that movie, so I could be wrong and it could be the best theater in the city. But I vaguely remember it as kind of unimpressive.)
But yeah, unless you are going to a specific place in a touristy part of town, just don't ever go there. And find someone who can tell you where the places that are worth going to are, like the beaches that are not full of idiot tourists and the museums that would actually be worth your time (I miss the Museum of Jurassic Technology so much)...
Which population numbers are you using for this graph? Census data for 2020 has LA county at 10.01 million and NC and Georgia at 10.45 and 10.73 million respectively. (for the second link, click on the Table 1 PDF. I didn't want to link to a PDF directly). 2023 numbers seem to have LA county trending down while those states are trending up.
It's still a staggering visual to compare population densities. I just thought the claim was a bit suspect regarding my state.
Can we talk about the fact that Wyoming shouldn't even be a state based on their miniscule population.
Having "interacted" with people there, they don't deserve to be a state.
If you put everyone in wyoming in the same place they wouldn't even qualify as the second largest city in sweden lmao
It's one of the 33 megacities in the world, so it makes sense.
You know, this would be much more accurately captioned as a map of how a president could win with as little of the popular vote as possible. Lowest possible score is 21%.
Map is missing a few based on this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_County,_California
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population
Maybe it was based off the 2020 census where it had a higher population, but even then it had less than Michigan, so idk where this is coming from.
NC has a higher pop than LA county.
Wake county (NC) has a higher pop than MT.
I lived near Orange for a while. The way the cities and towns have 0 gaps between them was nuts to me. It's just.. you cross the street.
In MT you have 2 lane roads with several miles in between. The county I'm in now doesn't touch the interstate. Wild.
Also means the fires out here, as terrifying as they are to my hurricane-seasoned ass, are more likely to take out stuff in the middle of nowhere and a handful of houses, not entire swaths of suburbia.
rare ohio victory
That's why it's a miserable dump.
Enjoy the "Walk of Fame"
There are a lot of reasons to complain about L.A., but acting like Hollywood and L.A. are equivalents and Hollywood isn't just a really shitty part of L.A. with a lot of tourists (so of course a lot of panhandlers will be there) is like acting like all of Las Vegas is just The Strip.
Most of L.A. is not Hollywood. I lived in the Valley and you didn't see what you're seeing in that photo. The places you will see a huge number of homeless in L.A. are Hollywood, for the reason I already stated, Downtown because Skid Row is long-established and hospitals actually dump people there when they discharge them (when I lived in L.A., they dumped someone's grandmother with advanced dementia there in a hospital gown) and Santa Monica and Venice on the beach because of both the tourists and the fact that sleeping on sand is a hell of a lot more comfortable than sleeping on concrete.
Like I said, L.A. has a lot of problems, but calling L.A. a miserable dump based just on Hollywood is silly. Don't base your opinion on a city on where the tourists go, it's always going to be one of the worst parts of town.
I lived most of my time in L.A. in North Hollywood. It has nothing to do with Hollywood proper. It's in the Valley and there's a mountain range between it and Hollywood. It was never like that when I lived there as it was gentrifying, and now it's a hip arts district that you would have no real reason to see if you were a tourist.
Homeless: serious problem, been a problem. Heartless evil the way they're treated now.
Water supply: serious problem, been a problem. Los Angeles is the highest consumer of electricity in California, mainly because the energy is spent on treating and transporting water. Highly inefficient.
Air pollution: serious problem, been a problem. Closely tied to...
Traffic congestion: serious problem, been a problem.
There has been major improvement in drug deaths. Actually quite good numbers there.
Okay, but your characterization as L.A. being full of panhandlers because of a photo of a bunch of people panhandling in a tourist area was not exactly an honest view of the city.
You're right by most accounts, but there's the whole fire thing that makes this insensitive.
My state is not there. Is this all states or just some of them?
I don't see any missing states. Maybe I'm mistaken but I do believe I see 50 states
New York? That surprises me.
New York is one of the few states not colored in?
The blue states are the ones with a lower population.
Ohio is the surprising one to me. Big state I guess.
It's not true of Ohio based on a quick Google search. I think this map might be quite wrong
Most of Ohio cities exist solely for industry. Cincinnati for transit (river + trains + air), Dayton for WPAFB (formerly a major canal for the ohio river), and Toledo for the Goodyear plant and lake Erie access; thats all i remember off the top of my head.
Los Angeles County has a population of approximately 9.66 million residents, making it the most populous county in the United States.
yawn No one cares. Especially Europe no longer cares about news from the divided states of southern northern america.
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