Don’t let your cats roam, it’s a dick move in so so many ways. Be responsible and keep and eye on your pet on your property, if you don’t think cats are indoor animals, don’t get one
There are cats that definitely come with pre-conditions. For example our last cat was abandoned and he chose us next. But first he spent about 4 months learning to like being outside. So until we moved* he wouldn't let us keep him inside. He'd literally climb out the window, up the wood framing, to the roof, get into the pine trees and work his way down from there. Eventually we'd just get a meow at the front door when we thought he was still chilling in the living room.
If you're adopting a shelter cat or bringing up a kitten you should absolutely keep them inside. But some cats will let you know they have terms and conditions to your relationship.
Note - Once we moved he no longer wanted to roam so much and was content with being a balcony cat. Which strongly suggests it was tied to some idea of territory or familiarity with that area.
All excuses as far as I’m concerned.
I found a cat leg the other day, victim to a coyote. But I guess the owners can be comforted that their kitty got fresh air.
But as a neighbour who deals with this issue and property damage from neighbours cats , if your pet becomes my pest i will deal with it as such, and you’ll never know about it
I mean yeah that sucks that can happen with coyotes, but dude if cats are damaging your stuff it's because you're a dick to them. They are smart enough to know and to take it out on you. Also that's a great way to turn a minor dispute into a violent confrontation. Don't escalate shit just because you want to feel superior. It's not a rational response to kill your neighbor's cat.
If cats are damaging your stuff it's because you're a dick to them.
I've worked professionally with cats for over 7 years. I can confirm that cats will fuck with your shit no matter how you treat them lmao
See I've had the opposite experience. As long as there's a cat box in neutral territory, food, and water, and you let the cat lead on socializing with you, it's fine. People run into problems when they treat cats like accessories instead of animals that have their own thoughts, agency, and borders.
Of course there will always be exceptions but if a cat is fucking with you and only you then you made it angry at you.
Be a little piece of shit, and one day you'll find out that you aren't the only one who can kill, as you learn your brakes aren't functional on the highway.
Sincerely, Your neighbors <3
You mean like the cat that kills all manner of wildlife for no reason?
Woah, is lemmy pro letting cats outside? It's so terrible for the cats and local wildlife why would you be in favor of it?
America-centrist I see
The hell does America-centrism have to do with this?
Because cats do not disturb ecosystems in most parts of the world, most notably not in the Americas
Australia - https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/nov/12/from-beloved-pet-to-biodiversity-villain-what-now-for-australias-cats France - https://www.lemonde.fr/en/our-times/article/2023/02/18/the-common-cat-has-become-an-environmental-scourge_6016379_39.html A paper that lists other locations besides United States, like United Kingdom - https://besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/pan3.10073
Bruh I've lived in Japan, Germany, and Qatar, and all those places had birds.
Nah
Outdoor cats have a far shorter life expectancy and damage the local ecosystem. Why don't you care?
Not every place in the world is America, there are many places where cats are native, and dont get driven over as much because all is full of cars, i got mine to specifically damage the sorounding mice ecosystem because having the pest control there every six months is expensive.
"Many Places" umm no, not domesticated house cats.
And if you live in a place with native and wild small felines it's even more important to keep domesticated cats inside since they will compete for food or mix genetics by trying to interbreed and put the native wild population of cats in danger of diseases.
Cats originated in Egypt and spread across the world basically by humans. So unless you're in Egypt, cats aren't native to your ecosystem.
Your right humans spread them as semi wild pets to protect they food stock from rodents but for Europe that where the romans over 2000 year ago, so i would not say that they are a new emerging existencial thread for the eco system here, if that was the case it would have long colapsed lol.
This is completely faulty logic not backed by reality or even a single source.
Here is some further reading:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cats-kill-a-staggering-number-of-species-across-the-world/
There's plenty parts of America that are like that as well. A lot of areas, having an outdoor cat is almost necessary you want an outdoor garden, since otherwise the local rodents will just eat it all.
I found a chewed up cat leg the other day, a coyotes dinner, hope it was yours
let
Lmao
Your cat has more control over you? Who is whose owner there? People who let their cats roam are entitled and irresponsible.
I had a beagle who always wanted out and roam. But my pet doesn’t make the rules so I kept him inside
Instead of a catio I installed fences around my property so my cats could enjoy the outside without roaming outside. It wouldn't work for everyone because my property is half walled to (not the regular american layout) but it works like a charm.
I’m always amazed cat owners let them roam. You’re putting a LOT of trust in both the animal as well as your greater environment. Just the other week I read a message from our local animal shelter. They had found a cat which had gotten poisoned. Either intentionally or unintentionally, that couldn’t be determined.
They had to put it down before the owner was found, it was that sick. I’d feel pretty guilty if that was my cat.
Cats can get run over, abducted, get hurt, etc. Even ignoring the fact that it’s a living creature, it’s also an expensive piece of property and vet bills aren’t cheap either.
Adorable little asshole!
Don't feed any cats that are not yours. not even once.
yeah, feeding the wrong food wil give them liver disease in the long run, and they cant handle suddenly switching food sources. They'll also get way to fat which gives them depression and also kills them. being 'nice' to a cat that has an owner by feeding it shortens their life by ~3 years.
Better yet, do feed them, take them inside, and save them from an owner who doesn't care if they get run over
shitty cat owners downvoting you. most place around me won't even let you adopt a cat if you don't say you'll keep it inside. its bad for your local ecosystem and its bad for the cat. I've seen way too many cats die because they were kept outside.
most place around me won't even let you adopt a cat if you don't say you'll keep it inside.
I've yet to see an animal shelter in my entire country that doesn't have this claws in its adoption contract. I haven't run an exhaustive search (there are over 4,000 shelters), but I've checked dozens.
You would think that every single animal welfare group agreeing that cats should be kept inside would be enough to convince people that maybe cats should be kept inside, but alas
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