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[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago
[-] FundMECFS@slrpnk.net 157 points 3 days ago

Kind of fucked up but tbf Google does similarly shady stuff.

Please just use duckduckgo (or SearX).

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

DDG is just Bing under the hood

[-] FundMECFS@slrpnk.net 56 points 3 days ago

And Searx is the same. And startpage is just google.

But the point is they don’t track.

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[-] dan@upvote.au 24 points 3 days ago

SearX is dead; you should use SearXNG now.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago

I feel like Microsoft is way more shameless about their shady stuff. They've been messing around with impersonating google/chrome for awhile now, they recently had that thing where they would copy all your open chrome tabs, and then when you started your computer it would open edge with all your chrome tabs to trick people into using edge instead.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

With Net Neutrality gone, these giant tech companies could start bidding to make ISPs make their search engine default and have the other competitors fail to load.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The stupidest thing about this whole entire thing about net neutrality.

The entire reason the FCC was created was to prevent the committee from being governed by the government process to avoid corruption for the exact circumstances we're seeing here

Saying that the Supreme Court and the appeals court has any area of saying what the FCC is legally allowed to do is laughable, as the entire reason for the committee being isolated from the standard Executive Administrative branches was to prevent government overreach like they're doing currently.

This is 1,000% them saying hey you're an isolated committee that we can't touch but you're not allowed to do the one thing that your committee is supposed to do

Corruption all the way to the top. It's the American way, ironically I think the slogan "drain the swamp" works for both parties, as it's clear that the people that are in charge aren't willing to actually uphold the commitment they've made to the people.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

"This thing that one party did, multiple times, is the fault of both parties!"

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Thank you for providing a perfect example. It's manipulative or delusional to say that the fault of the country is exclusively one party. It's how we got in this situation in the first place. The amount of partisanship that this country has is ridiculous, especially when the go-to response for anything going wrong is well look at the other side. The US as a whole needs to do better, nobody's going to get anywhere if it's just the blame game. Both sides can be at fault, blame is not unilaterally one way nor is it equal levels. I'm not downplaying either sides position, but I'm not going to ignore what's happening in the country.

Being said I'm not engaging further in this, I don't want it to devolve into a political thread as its not the purpose of this, I was just making a one off comment on the irony of it all.

[-] cupcakezealot 3 points 2 days ago

because it's not google we're gonna make it look exactly like google

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 66 points 3 days ago

lol the gall

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 76 points 3 days ago

Microsoft does so many scammy things when it comes to trying to prevent people from using Chrome/Google. Even though Edge/Bing hasn't caught on, I really think them abusing windows dominate OS position this way should be enough for an antitrust lawsuit.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Usual Microsoft, using shady tactics instead of creating a better product or just focusing on their own thing and respecting user choice. They should grow up sometime.

[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

They seem to pathologically not be able to help themselves, even with products that don't need to be promoted that way. I used Outlook for Android for years because it was actually quite good. Had a multi account inbox view, true dark mode, Galaxy Watch compatibility when those were all rather unusual features. But then they started trying to put Bing search in my long press menu system wide, using Outlook as the Trojan horse to do so, and I just found that too obnoxious

[-] tibi@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I don't think they can. They would need to rethink their company culture, but because the current one makes big numbers go up, they don't really have to change anything.

[-] Breve@pawb.social 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

User: "Can we get Google?"

Microsoft: "But we already have Google at home!"

The Google at home: [reskinned Bing page]

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is a genius move to keep you from Google search

Seems more like a genius move to get slapped with another antitrust-like lawsuit.

[-] Feelfold@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

Corps don't give a fuck about an antitrust law suit. In the US, the party that pays the most to jerk off CEOs just got put in charge. Even if it was the other party, who only pays slightly less, the most extreme fines are a slap on the wrist. Hell, come Jam 20th it'll probably a tax write off.

Until the EU levies fines that would kneecap these companies out of business, there is no incentive to change the behavior.

[-] sandwichsaregood@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean the original lawsuit was for aggressively bundling Internet Explorer and kneecapping other browsers. Which sure sounds a lot like a minor variation on what they've been doing with Edge and Bing for a while now, without consequences. Antitrust enforcement is not something I have a lot of confidence in for the foreseeable future.

[-] lipilee@feddit.nl 23 points 3 days ago

Honestly, that's actually smart and nobody is hurt here. Google by now is as shit as Bing, so there's nothing wrong with using B instead of G. Let them downvotes come :)

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Misleading users is definitely harmful. Since this is obviously done on purpose, I'd say it's malicious.

[-] lipilee@feddit.nl 17 points 3 days ago

yeah, you're right, actually. if I have to fit this somewhere in my framework of things, it'd fall in the "dark pattern" box. so per definition it's actually malicious.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 3 days ago

It's malicious and I like it. What's more entertaining than watching giants fight?

[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

Is Google really as shit as Bing? I had to Ask Jeeves to confirm that.

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[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 days ago

Bing/Microsoft are so scummy lately

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[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

And just when I thought their endless begging couldn't get any more pathetic.
Soon enough they'll tell you a puppy dies every time you launch a non-edge browser

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[-] seven_phone@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

This is a search engine showing open evidence of skewing results away from true for their own motivations. Slightly comic when it is Microsoft doing it to Google but if they do this so blatantly how else are they more subtly redirecting our searches towards biased or even false results that benefit them and misinform the user.

[-] BangCrash@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

The single thing Google did right when they first came out was a clean UI with a search bar on an uncluttered page.

At the time the competitors had search pages cluttered with ads and news. It was so bad you couldn't think.

If Microsoft makes their search nice to look at them it's going to get many more users

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[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Besides Privacy DDG is wayy better then Google And Bing + It has a better search quality.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

I prefer DDG to either as well, but in terms of search quality ... Don't they use Bing search results?

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Yes they use Bing but i think they did some adjustments to improve the search quality (Correct me if am wrong)

[-] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I disagree with the quality part.

I don't think there's a difference in search quality, but I do really like the bangs and the client-side settings (can completely disable the AI noise, enable dark mode, etc all w/o needing an account).

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[-] jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

Microsoft is a pathetic little husk of a company, what a corny and predatory practice that not even google cares to do if you search other search engines.

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 6 points 3 days ago

Wait, is Microsoft using Google's copyrighted work on their page without authorization? This is going to get pulled so fast they're gonna get whiplash.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why would they? They can imitate Google's style w/o violating their copyright, it would actually be easier to reinvent the wheel than to try to somehow copy what Google has. It's nothing special, just a bit of padding and margin settings for result cards and whatnot.

[-] Syd@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah this "Microsoft" group seems to be pretty established and it looks like they have decent resources.

And probably a lawyer or two to look things over.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

which has become a synonym for search engines or finding answers online.

If you’re my age, sure. But it’s crap.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Don't worry, "the mushroom will eat the fungus". It may be the other way around, but whatever.

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