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[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago
[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago

Spit on that thang

[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee 172 points 6 days ago

Security by obscurity is not real.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 47 points 6 days ago
[-] thebigslime@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago

How can our eyes be real if mirrors aren't real?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Have you ever looked, like really looked at your hands?

[-] moody@lemmings.world 22 points 6 days ago

They call them fingers, but I've never seen em fing.

[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 18 points 6 days ago

Not on it's own. But as part of a multi layered approach of does help.

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[-] omxxi@feddit.org 5 points 5 days ago

It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA

[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 40 points 6 days ago

Closed source is more secure because the viruses can't see where to get in.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 31 points 6 days ago

This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I'm completely safe.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

The main reason why MacOS has less viruses is that it's even more than that. Want to run programs not from the app store? Hope you like a convoluted set of settings you have to go through to install that in the first place.

The second main reason is the constant obsolescence of API.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 64 points 6 days ago

Joke's on you: GNU/Linux isn't Unix to begin with (that's literally what GNU means: "GNU's Not Unix")!

Therefore, MacOS is "the best Unix" only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes ("Unices?" "Unixen?") -- hardly an impressive feat.

Trollface

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

BSDs aren't even Unix AFAIK because they didn't bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Although for both Linux and (especially) BSD, isn't there a "Unix of Theseus" issue here, if you understand my meaning?

Maybe for BSD? They have a lot of the original code though, and BSD moves a lot slower than Linux. Modern BSDs have a lot more in common with original UNIX than macOS does, but macOS paid for the certification and the BSDs didn't.

Linux never was UNIX though. It does loosely follow the UNIX philosophy though.

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[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 69 points 6 days ago

Obscurity is not security. Obscurity is the fake sensation of privacy, you are on the hands of the creator.

[-] omxxi@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

and on the hands of the NSA

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 24 points 5 days ago

I'm late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.

Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.

Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.

[-] SnotFlickerman 50 points 6 days ago

Now this is the kind of trolling I sincerely advocate.

[-] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago

Someone make a virus for his mac

[-] HStone32@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn't freedom if Apples winning any awards.

[-] highball@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

It's definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Any judgment of “best” needs to specify “for what use case?”

I’m a MacOS daily driver, and I think it is the best for most of the use cases that matter to me.

But not all of them. And my use cases could easily change a little bit and make MacOS a miserable choice to stick with.

Everything is a trade-off.

Edit: And as for closed source security, I hope nobody seriously makes that argument anymore, do they?

[-] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 days ago

To quote from a paper on the topic of OS security:

https://iststudentlab.uap.asia/student-exhibits/periodicals-on-advancements-in-operating-systems-and-networking

According to the paper [5], windows is the most user friendly and has more hardware compatibility. In terms of security, Linux is the most secure among all OS given that it is an open- source operating system which gives users the ability to customize and implement security patches. As for memory management, macOS is the better option due to its fully integrated virtual memory system which is often on and continuously provides addressable space up to 4 per process. The virtual memory system allocates extra space for swap files on the root file system as a program uses space.

All available OS offer some level of security features such as firewalls, antivirus software, and encryption [6]. macOS has a level of security due to its unique operating system designed specifically for Apple devices with no third-party developers involved. Linux, being open source, is often regarded as more secure than Windows, which is a target of many malware attacks [7].

[-] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago

windows is the most user friendly

This is entirely dependend on what you're used to I think, because I used to think this too but now I can't do anything with windows anymore.

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[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 25 points 6 days ago

I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not... well.. if you don't see it maybe I'm just net-warped.

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[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Lol this comment section is on fire. Irony died in 2015.

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago

People like a good flame war 🤷

Just because one understands trolling doesn't mean it can't be fun to discuss the things the troll brought up.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Especially when it's cold outside.

[-] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 16 points 6 days ago

Thank you, you made a buncha nerds angry and now they're fighting in the comment section >:(

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

*flames, screaming, sound of glass breaking*

God I love the smell of Usenet in the morning

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)

I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.

I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.

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[-] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Former macaddict here

I disagree but this is a funny meme

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[-] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

SOLARIS 8 IS BEST UNIX

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 6 days ago

I guess we have different definitions of what "best" means.

[-] Eiri@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago

Is there some twisted definition by which you can argue Windows is UNIX? Just to intensify the violence.

[-] Trashboat 9 points 6 days ago

GNU/Unix/NT, as I’ve taken to calling it

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[-] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Back in the 90s, Windows NT had a POSIX compatibility layer that you could enable (it wasn't enabled by default).

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[-] drosophila 8 points 6 days ago
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[-] mogoh@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago

So ... the Darwin kernel is insecure? 🧐

[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

did you see 38c3? is there any doubt ios/osx is insecure, hackable and has plenty of rootkits avail? this facebook meme shouldnt trigger any tech savy nerd.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Account made two days go...

Ok, madthumbs. Sure.

[-] CoffeeWire@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago
[-] Jinni@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Burn the witch!

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Secure from whom? Sure to be more government backdoors in MacOS.

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