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[-] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“The big ‘for sale’ sign still hangs on our state constitution,” LaRose said. “The left wants to try and turn Ohio into California; I don’t think Ohioans want to see their brave law enforcement officers subjected to that sort of thing.”

Then let them vote on it? It sounds an awful lot like he's worried it would pass, which would indicate that Ohioans do want that sort of thing.

I know the guy I quoted, LaRose, isn't the AG, but as Secretary of State it seems like he is celebrating the decision to keep this off the ballot.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I don’t think Ohioans want to see their brave law enforcement officers subjected to that sort of thing

…has this guy never heard of the LAPD, or?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As an Ohioan I don’t want us to be California. But I could see us somewhere between Michigan, Minnesota, and Illinois. Maybe a bit of New York and California sure. Though wherever cops are held accountable that’s where I want us to emulate in law enforcement.

The radical right wants to turn us into Alabama.

[-] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At some point it seems like the AG is protecting his own self, no ?

[-] enoilgat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Ohio has been for sale for a long time.

[-] Hnazant@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Does seem the most corrupt lately.

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