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[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 94 points 3 months ago

My mom talks about this shit all the time "flipping burgers isn't a job!", and demeans a shit load of other service jobs. She says those are just for teenagers to buy a car or to save for college (as fuckin if).

But theoretically, if they were only for teenagers and broke college students, you really think those millions of jobs would all be filled by people between the age of 16 and 24? Seriously?

Boomers are living in a fucking dream

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 50 points 3 months ago

If fast food is for teens in school, why are they open during school hours?

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 months ago

These same assholes wouldn't survive a week working a service job. That shit is hard and stressful as fuck.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

the vast majority didn't work their way through school either, and if they did, it was a bullshit job, not the kind of dangerous child labor they endorse nowadays. meat packing, construction, logging, they just want cheap labor.

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-want-children-clean-meatpacking-plants-1782139

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/some-lawmakers-propose-loosening-child-labor-laws-to-fill-worker-shortage

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Boomers are living in a fucking dream

Meanwhile, everyone else is living in the nightmare they created.

[-] Hackworth@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago
[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

Literal depiction of boomers eating their offspring so they can take another fucking cruise on a norovirus infected monstrosity

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago

"flipping burgers isn't a job!"

What is it, then? A hobby? Are these people burger-flipping enthusiasts?

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

burgerites. it's their religion, and I'm american enough to let people follow whatever deranged deities they want, as long as the fries are good.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

for teenagers to save for college

Makes sense. Average in-state tuition is about $16000 per year. At $7.25/hour, you only need to work 200 eight hour shifts every year to pay for tuition that year. Add that on to the 180 school days, it's just 380 days a year.

Obviously, you also need to register yourself as a subcontractor via an LLC subsidiary of a foreign shell corporation to avoid paying taxes on that, and you live at home, so all your food is completely free, and everything is on the internet anyway, so you don't need books for college, and your college which is obviously in your town is only a 98 minute light jog away from home.

[-] Aslanta@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

“Save for college” 😂😂😂

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Classic boomer logic... just because they could afford a decent life on min wage set 50 years ago doesnt make it true when the min wage has lagged behind inflation and not even accounting for greedflation...

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[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 72 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"That job doesn't deserve a living wage" = "I dont respect the people who do that job"

It's people looking down on that work as being inferior to them and their job and them thinking "they shouldn't get what I have". It's a view that jobs are better or worse than others thats been perpetuated by the rich. Belittling people who are not the top earners and making the argument that they deserve less that someone that they deem more professional.

What what these people should be saying is why don't I get more for my efforts , not that others deserve less.

By keeping the anger pointing down, they stop you from looking up.

If you ever find yourself at work and think that another member of your team isn't pulling their weight and that they are getting paid more than than you, consider that they might be, by some fluke of fate, actually be being paid fairly and it's you who is being taken advantage of. Either put your feet up or stamp your feet on the ground, but don't kick the chair out from under your peers because that's exactly what the people who pay your wages want you to do.

[-] owl@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago

It's like they don't see them as people, they like a machine, out of view out of mind, but that person has to live somewhere, buy clothes pay bills etc.

[-] dodgy_bagel 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What exactly makes that job, specifically, the bottom rung of the totem pole?

Hell, I liked working at a restaurant. Feeding people is fulfilling as fuck. It sucks that it has to be such low pay.

And why should the bottom rung of the totem pole not offer a decent life?

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

People like that just want to feel superior. It perpetuates the lie that we live in a meritocracy.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

People who want a class system. That's pretty much it. The people making the food people are buying are the people making money. The company isn't making money without them. They should be paid according to the money they make, and that would be a huge amount of money.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

You get what you pay for. FAFO ain't a great policy when it comes to your food.

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Which why I find humor in how now (at least in CA) Someone working in McDonald's makes more then say, an associate teacher at a preschool. (Agian no diss on fast food workers, just a little humour by the same logic people put more care into thier burger then thier kid)

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 17 points 3 months ago

Jobs in things like teaching and nursing are considered the caring professions, with the assumption that people who go into them do so to help people rather than make money, and thus are a soft touch to extract profits from. It is considered normal for teachers to be paid poverty wages, have to buy classroom supplies from their own funds and to lose money over their career, because, hey, if you didn’t want to sacrifice yourself for making the world better or whatever, you should have gone into finance instead.

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

sigh yeah....

I realize as a community we really do put more care into our burgers then our children...

Yeah, people retort, it's not a job to make money, if you mention the bottom pay and parents who treat us as glorified babysitters or those who think they don't have to raise their children because child development is a magical art and all we do is "abra cadbra healthy SEL".

And like some aort of masochist too many stick to or get into this field (I mean what kind of sucker still pursues a multi-subject credential, lol, me) because it's true, we genuinely care for the children and want to them to grow.

Yet another problem with our society, and ofc the only time systematic change will occur is when it's tio late and even the most bleeding heart nurses, teachers etc have been forced out.

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[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Jobs that “help” people or are considered “fun” aren’t considered real jobs and those don’t deserve real wages.

Especially if they’re predominately female employees.

[-] aggelalex@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

If fast food worker wages cannot sustain life then fast food is unsustainable and should die out. If fast food becomes as slow and/or as expensive as a restaurant meal then fast food is a market distortion that shouldn't exist. Simple as.

[-] Aslanta@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Not to mention ultra-processed foods and soft drinks are costing thousands of lives and billions of dollars of medical expenses per year. We have the fast food industry causing a health crises and a shitty ‘healthcare’ system perpetuating it.

[-] GnillikSeibab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It's not that hard to stop eating fast food. I think we could do it together.

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[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 20 points 3 months ago

People shouldnt live if they work in fastfood?

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

"Those kinds of jobs should be fulfilled by kids."

And then they'll tell you child labor is nbd... typical of people who didn't labor in their childhoods, they're fine with the poor kids working whatever.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

I was involved in that thread, that bootlicker was deep throating the whole fucking boot

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

~~bootlicker~~ bootswallower

[-] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Anyone wo worked McDonald's on Christmas Eve deserves $25/hr! Making those ridiculous 1k nugget orders comes at the cost of humans dedicating hours of their lives to this shit.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago
[-] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

If you have to ask, you have the blessing of likely never knowing what troubles I've seen. And it was my birthday too, never again.

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I do think a lot of food jobs should go away. Restaurants are a huge source of food waste and it's because we have restaurants ready to serve more food in an area than there are people in that area, let alone people who want to go out and eat that night.

[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

The "My pay is shit but at least I'm not a fast food worker" mindset. Or maybe they're just pointing out the obvious situation we're in but don't necessarily want it to be this way.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

Americans have clearly never heard the phrase

"Never fuck with someone who handles your food."

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

If McDonald's is making wild profits then the employees deserve a living wage. Full Stop. I don't care if they just open the door, no reason 1% of the company deserves 90% of the profit.

[-] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

Wakeupwa just likes crime.

People have different priorities you know.

[-] Aslanta@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

They want to make the excuse that these jobs are not designed to make people money. And yet when we talk about suppressing the power and ubiquity of corporate greed across America, and all of the economic harm that comes with it, all we hear is “but they create jobs!”

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I wish there was some CHIM shit in play where saying something so idiotic vanished you out of reality and retroactively erased such a person from our collective memories.

Or maybe a better society that mitigates this kind of outlook. That's cool too.

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