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In C++? I'd rather be shot, thanks :P
I appreciate the usage of the pi 1 and not one of the newer versions.
Maybe I'm just old but old pi was special
It was! I still have mine somewhere in the house. It was my kodi media player for a long time.
Pi 1 was an amazing idea, I ordered one as a sonon as they were available and then never used it for anything. I've bought way to many pis since then.
I better be getting pegged at the end of the night if she makes me suffer by writing C++.
Put the gun away and throw that cpp book in the bin, fool. I brought The Linux Kernel Programming Guide, which is in C, and my own socks, which are wool. Now let's gets crackin.
Bonus points for some Rust device drivers.
Never touched rust, so I don't understand the hype. I'm not arguing against it, mind you, but I'm gathering, more and more, that it's worth a look. Maybe I'll look into it after work.
even all of that hype about memory safety and borrow checker you keep hearing aside, the actual coolest thing about Rust is how it does Traits instead of classes and that you can bind arbitrary data to enums
I already use linux. My feet have been getting cold lately. it never occurred to me to get wool socks. Is this how it starts? Are skirts next?
Unless you use goat wool socks. Then you can go for a old school hippie build. Sandals, long hair, tie dye shirt and go from there.
Could’ve got me there quicker by telling me the truth
The cool kids are forcing people to read this at gunpoint nowadays
Right? It's in the kernel and everything now. Linus likes it. Linus hates everything. HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING HIM?
Big Rust has gotten to Linus
Not the L man!
Did he actually say that he likes it? My impression was that it's not his comfort zone, but he recognizes that for the vast majority of young programmers, C is not their comfort zone. And so, if they don't hop on this Rust train, the Linux kernel is going to look like a COBOL project in a not too distant future. It does not happen very often that a programming language capable of implementing kernels gains wide-spread adoption.
One (1) good programming language is what they paid him XD
I'll never touch Rust.
I hate the syntax and cargo too much for that. If that means that I'll never write mission critical, low level code, so be it.
What don't you like about Cargo? Is there another package manager you like more?
Well - of course I prefer a centralized package manager like pacman, which I also use for python packages etc., but I mainly dislike the building process of rust, which is usually done with cargo. No libraries, not even a global cache for already compiled dependencies, no distcc. This makes it infinitely slower than most C/C++ projects. Compiling the kernel is literally faster than compiling a "simple" project like spotify_cli (500+ dependencies, depending on configuration).
So it's ass from a user perspective, waiting for stuff to compile (just for it to fail, and start from scratch, as some stuff needs a clean build/src dir), and imo very weird from a dev perspective.
I like Go better
However, C is still king in a lot of ways
C is definitely still king, but I wonder if crABI will eventually be able to dethrone it:
https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/111423
If they can define a useful ABI that manages to include lifetimes, that might just be enough of an improvement to get people to switch over from assuming the C ABI everywhere.
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Linux is C only, ever read the rant by Linus last century about C++ ? I was there, in usenet
They're about allow bits of rust though
Have they tried applying a bit of protective oil coating?
Heresy!
He's having the same rant every couple of years. It's always funny.
Wait, you are telling people had discussion in Usenet? No way!
it was mostly flame wars, alt.bin.pictures.erotica, warez, discussion about The Simpson, and of course The Oracle, and Kibo.
EDIT for young people, the usenet oracle and kibology
Girl, I will wear whatever socks you want, but... pulls out my own gun. We're reading this damn book instead.
C++? Shoot me
Wat? Don't you dare talk that way about my favorite multiple personality disorder clusterfuck of a language.
C is the only language, all the rest are mental disorders (/j 😉)
Edit: maybe rust, but it's on thin ice XD
I still.like fortran better. (And I am not even lying.)
For anything mathematical, the fact that Fortran has integrated support for doing math on arrays is absolutely fantastic
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the author of C++ said that C gives you many opportunities to shoot yourself in the leg. You have a much less chance for this to happen with C++, but when it does, you will blow your whole lower body off
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Nothing says "I love you" quite like a surprise LFS install.
When you find out your partner is into BDSM..
please don’t make me read another bjarne book. the last time i read one it made me want to stop programming
Jesus Christ, how old is that Pi?
12
That's not socks that's a gun
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