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Linux and Chill (lemmy.world)
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[-] m_f@midwest.social 115 points 7 months ago

The cool kids are forcing people to read this at gunpoint nowadays

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 72 points 7 months ago

Right? It's in the kernel and everything now. Linus likes it. Linus hates everything. HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING HIM?

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 43 points 7 months ago

Big Rust has gotten to Linus

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago

Not the L man!

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 26 points 7 months ago

Did he actually say that he likes it? My impression was that it's not his comfort zone, but he recognizes that for the vast majority of young programmers, C is not their comfort zone. And so, if they don't hop on this Rust train, the Linux kernel is going to look like a COBOL project in a not too distant future. It does not happen very often that a programming language capable of implementing kernels gains wide-spread adoption.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 months ago

One (1) good programming language is what they paid him XD

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[-] 30p87@feddit.org 11 points 7 months ago

I'll never touch Rust.

I hate the syntax and cargo too much for that. If that means that I'll never write mission critical, low level code, so be it.

[-] m_f@midwest.social 9 points 7 months ago

What don't you like about Cargo? Is there another package manager you like more?

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well - of course I prefer a centralized package manager like pacman, which I also use for python packages etc., but I mainly dislike the building process of rust, which is usually done with cargo. No libraries, not even a global cache for already compiled dependencies, no distcc. This makes it infinitely slower than most C/C++ projects. Compiling the kernel is literally faster than compiling a "simple" project like spotify_cli (500+ dependencies, depending on configuration).

So it's ass from a user perspective, waiting for stuff to compile (just for it to fail, and start from scratch, as some stuff needs a clean build/src dir), and imo very weird from a dev perspective.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago

I like Go better

However, C is still king in a lot of ways

[-] m_f@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

C is definitely still king, but I wonder if crABI will eventually be able to dethrone it:

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/111423

If they can define a useful ABI that manages to include lifetimes, that might just be enough of an improvement to get people to switch over from assuming the C ABI everywhere.

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[-] jia_tan 4 points 7 months ago

Why is there Gleam and Deno on the cover?

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

I know you're joking, but uh, both of those are (largely) implemented in Rust...

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[-] Magister@lemmy.world 68 points 7 months ago

Linux is C only, ever read the rant by Linus last century about C++ ? I was there, in usenet

[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago

They're about allow bits of rust though

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago
[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 months ago

Have they tried applying a bit of protective oil coating?

[-] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 7 months ago

Wait, you are telling people had discussion in Usenet? No way!

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

it was mostly flame wars, alt.bin.pictures.erotica, warez, discussion about The Simpson, and of course The Oracle, and Kibo.

EDIT for young people, the usenet oracle and kibology

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[-] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 53 points 7 months ago
[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 37 points 7 months ago

Wat? Don't you dare talk that way about my favorite multiple personality disorder clusterfuck of a language.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

C is the only language, all the rest are mental disorders (/j 😉)

Edit: maybe rust, but it's on thin ice XD

[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 16 points 7 months ago

the author of C++ said that C gives you many opportunities to shoot yourself in the leg. You have a much less chance for this to happen with C++, but when it does, you will blow your whole lower body off

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[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 51 points 7 months ago

Put the gun away and throw that cpp book in the bin, fool. I brought The Linux Kernel Programming Guide, which is in C, and my own socks, which are wool. Now let's gets crackin.

[-] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago

I already use linux. My feet have been getting cold lately. it never occurred to me to get wool socks. Is this how it starts? Are skirts next?

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Unless you use goat wool socks. Then you can go for a old school hippie build. Sandals, long hair, tie dye shirt and go from there.

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[-] mycall@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Bonus points for some Rust device drivers.

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[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Girl, I will wear whatever socks you want, but... pulls out my own gun. We're reading this damn book instead.

[-] somenonewho@feddit.org 13 points 7 months ago
[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Lol. I prefer the New Testament.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 months ago

Don't kink shame her

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 23 points 7 months ago

I better be getting pegged at the end of the night if she makes me suffer by writing C++.

[-] evidences@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

I appreciate the usage of the pi 1 and not one of the newer versions.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 months ago

Maybe I'm just old but old pi was special

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[-] pathief@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

In C++? I'd rather be shot, thanks :P

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago

I'm down for Linux, but not C++ (I'm not into S&M)

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 7 months ago

Nothing says "I love you" quite like a surprise LFS install.

[-] Shipgirlboy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

When you find out your partner is into BDSM..

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 7 months ago

Seriously though, anyone knows the source of the pic? I've been wondering for a while.

[-] Juice260@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Could’ve got me there quicker by telling me the truth

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago
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