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submitted 5 hours ago by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196

sorry for any misunderstanding last time. this one is better because it portrays the actor/object relationship between ableists and the language they steal directly rather than implicitly. it’s hard to get a gauge on how everyone reads the memetic text. hoping this works better with the local audience. :)

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[-] regul@lemm.ee 2 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

OP, at a certain point there has to be a word to describe what is happening. Just because someone uses it in a derogatory manner doesn't mean that you have to abandon the word or that every usage of it is derogatory.

See: gay

Alternatively, make a third meme about it on a niche Internet forum.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

More than half of those are outdated jargon words from when standard procedure to "cure" ND people (and other undesirables) was lobotomies. They were not claimed.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

"Neurodivergent" is a bit different though. The r-word says something normative about people's mental development. It's saying that the person has been prevented from being normal; that something is wrong with them. "Special needs" indicates that someone requires different resources than what is typical. Much like IQ when it was developed, it's a way to sort people's needs on an economic basis, which isn't poorly intentioned. However, it still labels people by how we need certain things within our socioeconomic system.

Disorder classification systems like the DSM or ICD seek to normalize people, making sure we "function" in society. It measures us by a set of standards to ensure that we can live independently with our environment. It is very much defined by how society is structured; the environment of industrial capitalism. It doesn't matter how fulfilling your life is, only that you are a functional cog.

"Neurodivergence" seeks to avoid the pathology based approach. It says nothing about us having disorders. It instead focuses on us as different and divergent from the norm, but not inherently ill because of who we are. It's invariant to economic systems or cultural norms, only saying that we are different.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago

Absolutely. All of the terms in the post are a bit different from one another. All came from varying origins and backgrounds and have different histories of how they came to be in my post.

What they share is a pattern of similarities. They all are originally polite descriptive words that became demeaning.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago
[-] Cattypat 7 points 3 hours ago

Maybe you dont hear this in your circles but in my (younger) cohort it is ALL OVER THE PLACE and has been used against me in a derogatory manner

[-] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago

I feel like the same people who use "acoustic" also use "regarded"

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 hours ago

definitely a generational thing

[-] Nutteman@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

They just can't catch a break trying to make this meme work, huh

[-] millie@beehaw.org 5 points 4 hours ago

One of these things is not like the others.

[-] PeachyMcPeachface 2 points 3 hours ago

I can see the argument how there could have been an attempt to reclaim it, much like the n-slur, f-slur, or queer. Not sure if there was actually an attempt or not to reclaim, just to be clear.

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