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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

!world@lemmy.world mods once again proving their incapacity to host a space for “world” news.

Terminology citation

Under Canada's Westminster-style parliamentary democracy, the terms government and Government of Canada refer specifically to the prime minister, Cabinet, and other members of the governing party inside the House of Commons, but typically includes the federal public service and federal departments and agencies when used elsewhere.[7] This differs from the United States, where the executive branch is referred to as an administration and the federal government encompasses executive, legislative, and judicial powers, similar to the Canadian Crown.

Emphasis mine. In particular I note that capitalization is not a factor. The fact that Voroxpete didn’t specify “capital G Government” doesn’t make a difference as I originally thought when reading.

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[-] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 49 points 2 months ago

They removed a comment essentially saying "I'm Canadian" as misinformation? Do Canadians not exist?

[-] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Canada is a country made up for the comedy TV series Letterkenny.

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

FUCKING EMBARRASSING!

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 19 points 2 months ago

jordanlund knows a truth we aren’t strong enough to accept, clearly

[-] SoleInvictus 20 points 2 months ago

Ugh, I knew it'd be Jordanlund before I saw the instance. I like them as a fellow forum user, but they should NOT be moderating anything. They remove comments they disagree with and use the moderation reason as a "you're wrong and my opinion is the final word now" field. Absolutely bullshit.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 months ago

I could see their tendencies working well in NCD, r/atheism or another community with a very specific vision and focus from leadership.

not world news though lmao

[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Canadians are a hoax perpetrated by the Scottish to sell cold weather.

I mean, just listen to that accent. Clearly made up.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 months ago

Come on don’t tell me you believe they’re real? No one can survive weather that cold. It’s an obvious fairy tail.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 7 points 2 months ago

Now they don't!

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Don't tell me, you still believe in Canada 🤣

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

I've often stood in the south shore of Lake Superior, straining my eyes, wondering what's on the other side of that vast expanse of water. They say that's where Canada is. I've never seen it, I don't think it actually exists

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 16 points 2 months ago
[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago

I had a Turkish news post that I translated REMOVED

will post them in here from now on

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

Thanks for consistently sharing those two links.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago

We should probably make an announcement somewhere at some point, so that they become known once and for all

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 11 points 2 months ago

"misinformation" shouldn't be a removable rule lol, unless it's about a specific conspiracy, misinformation can be wrongly enforced due to one ignorance. This is no different than tankie bs.

[-] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

As a Canadian, no lol

One dumb mod doesn't make or break the need for misinformation to be removed

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Sure, my non-mod opinion of anyone stating an elected member of government is somehow not a member of government would, by our own rules, be removed as an ableist slur.

I'll let you guess which one.

[-] Ice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Not Canadian, but the Canadian terminology described above is common in other parliamentary democracies as well.

In Sweden, where I live, members of parliament (ledamöter) will be said to be part of government if they are a member of one of the governing parties (these parties will have ministers in the government/cabinet), a supporting party if they voted in favour of the government (these parties do not have ministers in government but generally vote in favour of government propositions) and opposition if they abstained or voted against (these parties usually vote against government propositions).

Generally, MPs not member of the ruling parties will not be called "members of government", particularly members of the opposition.

I think the issue here is simply not being familiar with politics & governance outside the US.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Indeed, similar with the other democracies I'm familiar with (France, Spain)

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago
[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well I'm not an expert but my understanding matches the cited terminology. Elected representatives as the guy from NDP are called MPs - members of parliament. Unless they're a part of the governing party or cabinet ministers, they're literally not governing. They're simply not responsible and don't have the authority to deal with government issues. E.g. if there's a postal workers strike, it's not their responsibility to order the workers back to work. The asshole doing that is the labor minister, an MP of the governing party - the LPC. Non-government MPs vote on proposed legislation among other things.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

Thank you for confirming. I'll wait until tomorrow and ping the mod again

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I think you summarized it well.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Hello @jordanlund@lemmy.world,

Based on all of the answers below from Canadians citizens, it seems that the comment you removed was correct in the Canadian definition of the government, so not misinformation. Could you please consider restoring it?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

The point of this community is also to have some accountability for the mods. Let's see what the people I pinged say.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've said this before, I'll say this again. news@lemmy.world, worldnews@lemmy.world, and politics@lemmy.world (all of which are run by roughly the same group of mods), is a growing cancer in the fediverse.

Alternatives: !world@quokk.au !globalnews@lemmy.zip

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

Some other news communities:

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

PTB + CML (with respect to Canadian politics) on this one I think.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i concur.

fine to be clueless on occasion, i myself have been that way at many points. not fine to be unwilling to do 5 seconds of research before ~~banning~~ removing for misinformation.

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think people need to start saying:

Government of Canada (aka: The Prime Minister & Cabinet, and Members of Legislature supporting thereof)

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 2 months ago

thats true, how dare anyone use language differently from the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥

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