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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago

So what is the point they are trying to make in that video?

Is it just listing facial changes since Witcher 3? Or is it whining because the girl became less fappable in their opinion and claim it is woke?

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 10 points 3 days ago

Well you see, she isn’t wearing bikini armor and flirtatiously interacting with everyone in the trailer, so it is woke. Wokedy woke woke.

Determining if games are any good is getting really tiring because it involves wading through an insufferable number of manchildren whining about stupid things.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Essentially you need to find some influencers you agree with. That are willing to call out a game for being shit, too.

Wait for game to be out, wait for your favourite YouTuber to review it. Read Steam reviews that aren't oneliners or religious rants

Just don't preorder. You know what I told my friends several years ago?

"Cyberpunk 2077 is the first game I'm actually considering preordering because it looks so awesome"

I didn't. And I'm glad I didn't. I still enjoyed the game a lot, just later, after it had been patched to hell and back.

[-] bunnyBoy@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

It's worth noting as well, you don't even need to agree with the reviewer, you just need to get to know their tastes. If they always negatively review games you like, then a negative review from them is basically an endorsememt.

[-] drosophila 69 points 4 days ago

This is more psychotic than any of the dialogue in American Psycho.

[-] el_bhm@lemm.ee 26 points 4 days ago

Oh, it is not. It is on par with the book.

The book is faaaaaar more psychotic than the movie.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago

She looks 40, now as a 30 year old I couldn't have less of a problem. At this stage of my life I prefer my women to look like they've been an adult for a while.

[-] hector@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I find her extremely well made, kinda like I imagined when reading the book: full of scars, beefy, and angry at the stupidity of tradition (recurring theme in the books)

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah it’s sad. I’ve also seen a lot of people crying because Ciri is just sooo boring. I’m guessing those either didn’t play or like W3.

I will say I’m disappointed in the voice actor change as I liked the original VA, but any fan will get over that pretty quickly.

Her facial shape or whatever does look slightly different from W3 Ciri in ways that don’t happen just with age but given the new engine and whatnot, who cares :) (also a Witcher goes through many physical changes so it fits lore-wise also)

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

My only gripes with that choice is that Ciri is a leap more powerful than Geralt, and has the training of a Witcher, so it feels a bit DBZ-esque of the ever more powerful enemy/hero. But, otherwise, Ciri is the natural continuation of the game series.

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

My biggest gripe is also the power level. Witcher 3 already sets her potential way above Geralt which means for Witcher 4 they most likely will nerf her powers to not make her a, living god. Personally I would've preferred if they hadn't used Ciri in the first place because it's bound to create retcons.

Or if they wanted to make a story about Ciri they should've focused on who she is (someone with elder blood) not on who she isn't (an actual Witcher). She doesn't need Witcher powers, her innate powers are already way stronger than what a Witcher gets.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago

Stands to reason she's has her face broken once or twice.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 4 days ago

The skin looks a bit too smooth for a medieval setting, but maybe its magic 🤷

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 days ago

she is so magical that the biggest baddest faction was hunting her most of her life, only fair it also grants perfect skin.

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[-] hungryphrog 51 points 4 days ago

oh noooo a fictional female character that is not catered for my wanking needs boohoo

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

Bet this guy can tell someone’s IQ by their ~~skin color~~ skull shape.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I wish she had sharper rather than rounder features to resemble her model in W3 closer, but I don't see anything wrong with her new look, and anyone who does should probably touch grass.

Also, I'm an inveterate enemy of the braid

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I agree with everything you've said, but with the comment that the trailer as a whole had uncanny valley vibes to me. I think that the red pill crowd don't know how to properly voice their complaints. They see the model look different like you said and they like it less. Maybe they see the same sort of general weirdness in the characters like I do. Then they chalk it up to making characters less perfectly beautiful because they're going woke lol.

[-] BearGun@ttrpg.network 44 points 4 days ago

I'm more worried about her having mutation potions (and them working instantly, but that's more expected), they better have a damn good reason for her body not melting

[-] itslilith 56 points 4 days ago

They pretty explicitly make it sound like she underwent Witcher mutations in the meantime. How that happens, I have no idea, maybe it'll be a plot point in the game? If they hand-wave it away I'll be disappointed

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[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I finally decided to watch the trailer. Here's what really bothers me:

CDPR give us our first glimpse into the world of The Witcher 4 as Ciri takes on a fearsome monster called the Bauk in this trailer pre-rendered in a custom build of Unreal Engine 5.

I know it's just the first trailer, but this tells me nothing about what the game will look like, or run like. UE5 is notoriously hard to optimize properly for, and this is CDPR's first game using it. I'm already pretty sure my 3060Ti won't run it, but I'm sorta worried that we're talking 5090Ti if I want to run it on my 1440p 120Hz screen, which isn't even a high resolution or refresh rate nowadays.

I also don't like that they replaced the voice actor, but then I think this is supposed to be a more mature Ciri, whereas Witcher 3 Ciri was still pretty young. So it makes sense.

[-] hikaru755@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

this tells me nothing about what the game will look like, or run like

I mean... This was the first trailer to stir up a bit of excitement for a game that has only just entered full-scale development. They probably don't even yet know themselves what it will look like and how it will run on what hardware. Expecting that kind of info at this point is unrealistic

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[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

They will have to make sure it runs on current-gen consoles, so it will probably also run alright on mid-range PCs.

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I don’t want to sound like a neck beard but I would prefer her character model to look like her w3 one with just age applied. This one looks like someone doing cosplay and they also have Botox. It was cool trailer … excited about Ciri … just hope they improve her model.

[-] zeezee@slrpnk.net 26 points 4 days ago

you'd sound a lot less like a neck beard if you just didn't comment on her looks?

I want her to look like the same character who was in w3. It seems off to me.

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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

One of the reasons I avoid the gaming communities. So much complaining / whining / negativity / cynicism.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Misogyny, racism, transphobia, toxicity, unfunniness, bullying. Fuck gaming communities. I'll play my single player games and seldom post anywhere about them.

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[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm soooo excited. Ciris whole story arc in the prior games. Now seeing her as an older adult.

I know this post is about the toxicity of people. But I'm excited, that's all.

[-] intoner@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago

When you get so into looksmaxxing that you start sounding like you're going through psychosis

[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 days ago

Witcher 4 comments are bad, but Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet is getting a lot worse heat. You would think that a new IP by renowned devs who have not made a single bad game would be hype.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

They're exceptionally upset that the rough-and-tumble female bounty hunter lead character of the 80's cassette-retro-futurism sci-fi action game isn't some generic-looking 80's supermodel type, instead of someone who you'd actually expect to be a space-bounty hunter. I have no doubt Naughty Dog has made another banger game, but sexist coomers are gonna be sexist coomers, and there's not a whole lot you can do for them.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago

Yeah, like when was there ever a heroine in 80s action sci fi that was a no-nonsense rough & tumble ass-kicking type? I can't think of a single one, let alone multiple iconic characters that headlined my favourite movies from the era.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

First I can think of is Ellen Ripley from Alien and Aliens. Didn't start out badass or ass-kicking, but sure as shit ended up doing so.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago

Her and Sarah Connor were the main ones. T2 wasn't technically 80s but it's close, and the character started in the 80s.

Battletech does indeed have its long list of badass action babes, the top eight entries of which are Natasha Kerensky, but you've also got the likes of Melissa Steiner, her daughter Catherine "Katrina" Steiner-Davion, Dierdre Lear, and to a degree Isis Marik. A lot can be said for the women of the Draconis Combine as well who aren't permitted to be warriors but tend to politick and intrigue a lot, such as Omi and Constance Kurita.

Pulling just two examples out of that list, Dierdre Lear is a pacificst who became a doctor and jointed the military as a MASH trauma surgeon. Her father died in a 'mech duel when she was a little girl, and so she decided she was gonna fix war one bandaged gunshot wound at a time. She serves during the Clan invasion, being swept along with Kai Allard-Liao in his adventures, first kind of inadvertently causing and playing a significant role in the Twycross Great Gash incident by objecting to moving her MASH unit, and then on Alyena becoming trapped behind enemy lines and forming a one man one woman insurgency with Kai. She shoots one man in the back to save Kai's life and is deeply conflicted by this action.

Constance Kurita is a cousin to the Coordinator (dictator) of the Draconis Combine (space feudal Japan), In an oppressive society that doesn't like sending women to school, she joins the Order of the Five Pillars which is kind of what this society has instead of scholar monks, eventually becoming the Keeper of the House Honor. As such she has an intelligence network that rivals that of the military's intelligence service and often shares moments of "I can't tell you how I know this but here's something you should know and what you should do about it" with her cousin Theodore, heir to the throne and often in positions of power; as Theodore rises through the ranks, so does Constance and her influence and reach often matches his. She's not the captain of the ship of state but she's definitely got a hand on the tiller and a better idea of what's going on in the engine room than the bridge crew does.

Battletech actually did that kind of thing well, sure there's plenty of Rambo action schlock, it is a series of novels designed to market a tabletop game after all, but they put some craftsmanship into it.

[-] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

If only that era of movies hadn't spawned a TV Trope that sadly coloured these folks' perceptions on strong, independent, rough and tumble women: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VasquezAlwaysDies

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[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

This is like the lame version of those people who can locate your position on the globe by analysing the only visible cloud in one of your photos.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 days ago

more like mentally unwell people who get that invested in the media they come to analyze the bone structure of a character and link it as a reason to some imaginary wokeness

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 18 points 4 days ago

Must be the same kind of person that cares what a man's canthal tilt is.

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