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[-] superkret@feddit.org 202 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When you run OpenSUSE, you can feel it was made by Germans.
The installer is a beautiful example of German engineering.
The package manager is a perfect example of German over-engineering.
If you run it with KDE, you have 2 redundant GUI admin tools for every config in the system, and 4 for setting up printers.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 85 points 1 month ago

Yeah that sounds like a typical BMW engine layout.

It's amazing how OpenSUSE got my laptop's valve covers to leak oil.

[-] kalpol@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

As the owner of many old German cars this is funny but only because it means no one read the technical manual that came with the car

[-] punkfungus@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

As the former owner of an E36 and then an E90 I can tell you that the more modern ones still piss oil just as badly. And the consequences can be much worse (read: expensive) to boot.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Hey the BMW engine that had 2 redundant everything was pretty awesome because half the engine could die and it'd keep going as an inline 6. It was 2 of everything. ECU, Distributor, even fuel pumps and rails

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[-] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 170 points 1 month ago

Sees "Germany"

Die Kommentarspalte dieser Pfostierung befindet sich ab sofort im Besitz der Bundesrepublik Deutschland meine Kameraden!

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 42 points 1 month ago

Ahoi, Genosse! Wie lΓ€uft die Germanisierung? Verbreiten Sie erfolgreich das Wort von Linux in Ihrem Heimatland?

(Übersetzung von DeepL)

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 month ago

Ohhh ich spreche auch Wurst. Wie geht es ihnen mein Herr, toetet den fuehrer und benutzt Linux statt Fenster.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Wir sprechen Kraut, bitte sehr.

[-] far_university190@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago

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[-] noodles@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 month ago

Nixos: everything everywhere all at once

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 month ago

Good for you there wasn't an "ease of use" or "intuitive" field.

[-] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

nixOS is for people who love config files

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[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 11 points 1 month ago

I'm still a Linux noob all things considered, and I've been using NixOS for six months or more.

It is HARD, but I see the true value of it. I will never need to reinstall Linux because I broke it, that's simply impossible.

If I ever need to migrate my system, it's all backed up to github. With a single

Bash update.sh

every single .config file backed up, system upgraded, all packages updated.

I just love Nix, it's the perfect OS for me.

Now I just need to learn how to use flakes...

Sidebar: I've never asked before, but maybe someone can help me out. If I install a flake of an application, am I supposed to add it to the existing flake, or can I modulate flakes?

I've noticed when installing the nixvim flake it generates a new flake and it runs when I issue the

nix run ~/.dotfiles/nixvim/flake.nix

command, but I don't want to have to run that command every time. I feel like making a fish abbreviation isn't the correct way of doing this.

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[-] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 month ago

ITT - "I DISAGREE WITH THE FACTUAL ACCURACY OF THE SETUP AND/OR PUNCHLINE OF YOUR JOKE."

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[-] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

I'll never stop hating that debian is labeled stable. I'm fully aware that they are using the definition of stable that simply means not updating constantly but the problem is that people conflate that with stability as in unbreaking. Except it's the exact opposite in my experience, I've had apt absolutely obliterate debian systems way too often. Vs pacman on arxh seems to be exceptionally good at avoiding that. Sure the updated package itself could potentially have a bug or cause a problem but I can't think of any instance where the actual process of updating itself is what eviscerated the system like with apt and dpkg.

And even in the event of an update going catastrophically wrong to the point that the system is inoperable I can simply chroot in use a statically built binary pacman and in a oneliner command reinstall ALL native packages in one go which I've never had not fix a borked system from interrupted update or needing a rollback

[-] dezmd@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

You are maybe conflating stability with convenience.

"Why is this stable version of my OS unstable when I update and or install new packages...."

The entire OS falling down randomly on every distribution during normal OS background operations was always an issue or worry, and old Debbie Stables was meant to help make linux feel reliable for production server use, and it has done a decent job at it.

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[-] dan@upvote.au 12 points 1 month ago

FWIW I've got a Debian server that hosts most of my sites and primary DNS server, that's been running since Etch (4.0, 2007ish). I've upgraded it over the years, switched from a dedicated server to OpenVZ to KVM, and it's still running today on Bookworm. No major issues with upgrades.

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[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

They really should have used the word "static" instead of stable. Stable definitely has connotations of functional stability, and unstable of functional instability.

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[-] specterspectre@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think I've put fedora on at least 4 personal systems and it has never caused an issue. It's so smooth it's boring in the best way. Switched to it for daily computing about 4 years ago. I use a minipc as a media server with Arch and turning it on it's exciting. Just this fucking morning the default configuration decided that my main audio device was a microphone. Lovely. So flexible.

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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 35 points 1 month ago

I mean, I'm on Debian and I'm on the same install instance I've had for almost four years now. I'm constantly reading about how some of you people keep hosing your other distros with a normal update...

[-] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 21 points 1 month ago

Four years? Some rookie numbers you got there.

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 11 points 1 month ago

Maybe they mean four year uptime...

[-] Draghetta@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Real. Though sometimes running a recent version of something is a real challenge, unless it ships in appimage. If it’s a small program you can usually backport the package from unstable or just build it yourself, but if it depends on some rust or js libraries or whathaveyou you have to do so much crap you might as well just be running trixie

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[-] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Fedora 41 is now the 'wait 45 seconds every boot because you don't have a tpm chip' version.

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Can i get some context please? My fedora install wasn't using TPM, i had to manually configure it; i haven't noticed any difference in boot speed with or without TPM encryption

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[-] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago

What's wrong with your Fedora installation? Mine doesn't do that (also without a TPM chip)

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[-] exu@feditown.com 26 points 1 month ago

The four fundamental Ys

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Flexibility translates to unpredictable.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago

I’ve never had any issues with my Arch install being unpredictable. It has always worked exactly as I expected it to, even though I update it every couple of days.

[-] lukstru@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

It has always worked exactly as I expected it to

Just expect it to break, then it will behave as expected taps head

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Well I set up automated timeshift on btrfs, so maybe that’s why it’s playing nice.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago

I've been using Arch since 2014. If I could be arsed, I could write you a looooooooong list of regressions I've had to deal with over the years. For an experienced Linux user, they're usually fairly easy to deal with, but saying you never have to deal with anything is just a lie.

My experience with Arch is basically: it's all very predictable until it isn't and you suddenly find yourself troubleshooting something random like unexplainable bluetooth disconnects caused by a firmware or kernel update.

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[-] spacedout@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

What? I love Arch, it's so god damn stable and fast.

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[-] gsfraley@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Fedora is security? I mean, don't get me wrong, I love it, it's my daily driver after trying just about every distro under the sun, but I would've figured something like Qubes would stand head and shoulders above it.

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

i would say fedora is the "security distro for every day people" kind of distro

[-] qqq@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

One of the few with SELinux by default

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[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Qubes is specialised, whereas Fedora is a general purpose distro with a security focus.

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[-] VeganCheesecake 17 points 1 month ago

Somehow, I feel called out.

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

From my experience of Fedora: would you like to update today? Debian: You're good bro, no updates today.

[-] sunstoned@lemmus.org 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

5, years, later..

Debian: You're good bro, no updates today.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

I would hope the Fedora isn't the only one that cares about security

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[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Don't forget SUSE's focus on SAP... Which is also Germany I guess

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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 15 points 1 month ago

Danke fΓΌr dies handbuch

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[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

More accurate i would describe Fedora is:
Adopting Modern features first(Wayland,pipewire,etc Like there is no x mode in most stable Wayland desktops) and only having free and open source Repos(Rpmfusion can be added but its not official and excludes the Kernel drivers).

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

I think, a more serious attempt to summarize openSUSE would probably be: Functionality

Debian, Arch, Fedora and such are all weirdly similar in that they focus so much on minimalism. For example, Debian uses dash as the default shell, which breaks TTYs, but possibly squeezes out a tiny bit of performance, so I guess, that's worth it...?

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[-] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
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