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[-] Daerun@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

... or to hide their own imperialism.

[-] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 122 points 1 week ago

Remember folks: China is communist in the same way that North Korea is democratic and the Nazis were socialist.

It's just a smokescreen.

[-] JWayn596@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A core tenant of socialism is a democratized workplace, being able to vote for your wage and company policy, like an Engineer choosing when to launch the rocket instead of some MBS degree.

Last time I checked I dont think factory workers in China that make all our shit can do that.

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[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Eh, there's a notional aspiration to socialism at least, which is more than can be said about the US sphere of countries.

In practice though? Yeah, China is hyper-captialist, without much of the social security present in wealthier countries.

Why Leftist get a hard-on for the former USSR, Russia and China, or frankly any country, is beyond me.

There are positive and negative outcomes in line or against socialist ideals everywhere (I think people are too black and white about China in both directions personally)

I just do not understand simping for any country, just because they are "socialist".

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[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 75 points 1 week ago

You are banned from /c/hexbear

[-] FundMECFSResearch 39 points 1 week ago

lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml 😭

Learnt this the hard way, my first account was on lemmy.ml

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

Lemmy.ml is a default instance, so many newbies start there and find out how the admins operate there. So that's a funny thing with lemmy

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[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago

This is just like how I can praise so many things about China, push back against anti-China US propaganda, and still not pretend it isn’t an authoritarian regime where Xi made himself essentially life time president now.

Speaking of that, are there any left leaning subs that aren’t delusional?

[-] ne0n@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

If you find one, let us know

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[-] mydude@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

I'd say US imperialism is many magnitudes worse than any other governments, except for the brutality of Israel. Who else has more than 750 bases in at least 80 countries worldwide and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined. But sure Russia, Iran, China, North-Korea, Venezuela bad.

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[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Really though, the level of imperialism apologizing I've seen has been pretty humorous on this platform. Like people will say with a straight face that we need to support our client state Israel to secure our regional interests. It's the same song and dance from the concert of Europe giving guns to the corrupt African client kings so they can murder the other guy's corrupt African client kings. All for the noble civilizing influence of the state. But this time it'll turn out different. Just like it was different every other fucking time an empire ideologically justified it's imperialism. Because this one time is exceptional, unlike all the other instances of exceptionalism. Furthermore, I consider Carthage to need to be destroyed

[-] RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Really though, the level of imperialism apologizing I’ve seen has been pretty humorous on this platform. Like people will say with a straight face that we need to support our client state Israel to secure our regional interests.

Is this being federated from some platform other than Lemmy? Because I have literally never seen someone support that position here.

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

The US is the biggest source of imperialism in the world. We don't have to always follow that up with "butwhatabout" to distract from that, which is what the US media machine does by running stories all the time to manufacture consent for its own imperialism.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Whataboutusm is a russian invention and is 9 times out of ten usad to excuse russia agressions.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Trying to change the subject was not invented by anyone in particular, but the US likes to slap that label onto everything that directs criticism at them. For example, the US has the highest prison population per capita but will preemptively scream about enemy countries imprisoning people with countless stories in the media. Calling out the hypocrisy is countered with accusations of "whataboutism" but that's not whataboutism, it's simply pointing out hypocrisy since it's the same subject.

[-] splonglo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I'd say that Russia is the biggest source of suffering caused by imperialism in the world right now ( just going by the death toll of the Ukraine war ) . Is saying that a 'distraction' from American imperialism?

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[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

No no, you don't understand. America bad, therefore anything against America is automatically good. It doesn't matter who it is or what they do.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Ah yes, the Noem Chomsky. Famously when he was defending Pol Pot's regime.

[-] SnotFlickerman 22 points 1 week ago

This is literally why the LGBTQ+ community trusts neither the left nor the right, because historically both sides have brutalized them.

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Except they do thrust to the left

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Corporate leftists, the "libruls", are right wing political actors pretending to be left wing for a variety of reasons. Supporting business over people is fascism and the liberals are fascists who don't mean to be.

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[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a Venezuelan who's against Yankee imperialism and our current oppressive """""Socialist""""" government, I approve this message.

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