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[-] atempuser23@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

“In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.” "

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[-] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Because it can. If it couldn't it wouldn't but it can so it does. Be can do, so do be.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Blame mesons , they fucked up the matter/antimatter balance in the early universe from being 50/50 to 51/49

As a result, we live

Sufficient to say, this has made a lot of people angry over time

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 42 points 1 week ago

No one knows, it's unlikely we ever will. There's stuff and that's why you can even ask this question. If there wasn't anything, you wouldn't be able to ask anything. It happened, so now we have to deal with it.

[-] credo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Your last sentence should become some kind of philosophy.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 4 points 1 week ago

Look up Phenomenology.

[-] Sasha 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ex physicist here: Fucking no clue, but here's two neat ideas

  1. Because there has always been things. Basically it's entirely possible the universe just kind loops around given enough time, there are a few really interesting ways to do this but the classic one is where the big bang reverses and there's a bug crunch before a new big bang. That's not very likely based on our observations, but there are other more mathematically complex ways to have a cyclical universe, and they don't necessarily require having a defined beginning.

  2. Because nothingness is unstable. Basically, if there's a concept of nothingness, no energy, particles time or space, but it's possible for little universes to occasionally exist and disappear really quickly, then it's possible that our universe suddenly popped into existence, got really fucking big before it could disappear again and then got stuck existing. This is based on the highly advanced area of physics called making a wild fucking guess.

I'd say most likely that we'll have to be satisfied with that not being a question that can be answered. Much in the same way that we can't answer the question of why the laws of physics look the way they do, we can just describe what they currently are.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

None of that actually answers the question because it’s a philosophical one and not scientific. This really irritates the scientific mind.

[-] Sasha 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah that's what I was getting at, all we can do is guess. It's pretty easy to realise it's impossible to answer scientifically, anything that could have any impact on our universe must necessarily be part of it and so cannot tell us anything about what came before.

[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 7 points 1 week ago

There's a third option: Black holes create new universes through some as yet undiscovered process. Then your existence just becomes a statistical eventuality, as do every other life that you could ever live.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 16 points 1 week ago

There's a fourth option: every reference to the mystical properties of black holes on lemmy creates new universes through some as yet undiscovered process. Then your existence just becomes a statistical eventuality, as do every other life that you could ever live.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 13 points 1 week ago

You got us!

starts to dissolve

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

No one knows. I really want to know, but the current understanding takes us back only to the big bang. Not why it happened or why anything exists at all.

The Anthropic Principle is at work here. If nothing existed we wouldn't be here to ask why it exists.

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Here's some reaching: There's the ~~theory~~ hypothesis that our universe is the inside of some construct in a higher universe* that is similar to if not actually a black hole.

In our universe, time and space inside a black hole are causally disconnected from the outside so there can be a defined beginning without there needing to be time continuity across the event horizon. It's often said that time and space switch places inside a black hole, which could mean that our time is relative to space outside of the universe. This hurts my head to think about. Almost like our time dimension runs sideways relative to whatever was "before".

* As to whether this is turtles all the way down / universes all the way up, we'll probably never know.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 6 points 1 week ago

That's not a theory; not in the scientific sense. That's just someone being creative, we have no way to prove or disprove it, ergo it's as useful as explaining everything by God.

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

You're right. I should have used the word hypothesis.

[-] logos@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago
[-] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The universe feels like a pretty whimsical place, so why not? Might as well try it out. If it sucks, you can always let everything crash into a singularity and start over.

[-] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Beat me to it. Why not was my answer to this question too.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Aren't quarks made up of the nothingness, the vacuum of space, somehow vibrating? I feel like that's what smart people have been trying to tell me.

If that's correct, then the nothing is the source of the something.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The worst part is we're here now and most of us are intrinsically forced to deal with whether we want to or not.

Because, to maintain "nothingness" the omniverse must balance matter and anti-matter.

Well, that became unbalanced because of random fluctuations.

So theres a pocket of matter and anti-matter didn't annihilate for some reason, I call it "plot armor" reasons, and that separated from each other forming 2 regions of space.

So the region of positive-matter, through randomness eventually formed our universe.

The region of anti-matter probably formed its own anti-verse


Ok I'm bullshitting, I'm not a scientist and I made up the whole thing mmkay? That's my amateur explaination of the universe. Fight me.

But like, philosophically make sense.

How do you get something from 0?

0= [+1] + [-1]

See? That's my mathematical proof.

Its my version of E=MC², but with the creation of the universe and anti-verse.

🤓

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago

There isn't any anti-verse, normal matter won for reasons still unknown, because the big bang should have created an equal amount of matter and antimatter. So plot armour is a good enough explanation for now.

But since there was less antimatter, it was all annihilated.

That still doesn't answer OP's question, though, you can go further - why did big bang create more matter? Why did big bang happen? And if you one day manage to answer that, you'll have to ask why the thing that caused big bang happened?

The question simply doesn't have an answer.

why did big bang create more matter?

(Again, I'm not doing a scientific explanation, this is a philosophical explanation)

There is the same amount of matter and antimatter, but some mysterious energy propelled them to separate with a distsnce in between them. This is how the universe and the anti-verse are stable. But eventually, these two different "universes" will collide and annihilate each other again.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 week ago

I think you're mistaking philosophy for something else. Ignoring facts is not philosophy.

[-] logos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Isn’t antimatter still “something?” It’s not nothing.

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

Because if there wasn't you couldn't ask this question.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

Now the question has been asked and universe has no longer a purpose. The end stage of the universe is starting now.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Fuck all this. Let's get a second opinion from the nothingverse, maybe they know something we don't

[-] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

because the demiurge thought it would be cool

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago
[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

The question will probably never figure out.

I'm more about wondering about after everything now. When everything stops expanding and all the energy is gone, does everything collapse and cause another big bang? Has this happened before?

Is this "multiverse" many of us wonder about really just this same universe in different incarnations? Can any of these incarnations really be said to be "before" or "after" each other?

This is the stuff I ponder about recently.

[-] zloubida@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

We wiki never know. My take, which is not a thing one can prove or disprove, is that something that don't actually exist needed something to exist in order to love. My answer is love.

[-] essell@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Stuff exists so it can ask questions like "why is there stuff?"

[-] Lampshade@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If the universe/big bang didn’t exist, would numbers conceptually still exist? i.e zero is still zero regardless of whether any matter exists, right?

If there is no form of existence in which math doesn’t exist, then everything ultimately exists necessarily. It has to exist, as a result of being derived from the infinity of math.

Everything is just math, and it therefore has no option but to exist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothesis

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