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Luigi's Manifesto (www.kenklippenstein.com)
submitted 1 week ago by lukes26@lemm.ee to c/usa@lemmy.ml

“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”

Post got removed in .world for not being a "news source" even though Klippenstein is definitely a very established independent journalist, so trying again here I guess.

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[-] EldritchOm@leminal.space 1 points 5 days ago

Will post more in my own comments

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Watching whoever that dumb fuck who isn't Jon Stewart latch on ONE LINE of this and mock him for being "not qualified" was the most pathetic showing of former satirical programming just being state propaganda i've seen in at least 4 days.

[-] coolusername@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

i think this one (manifesto) is fake for obvious reasons. this one is real https://archive.is/7jUsF
it's way more coherent

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

That is not anything a heir to a 600 million dollar fortune would write. You have to ask yourself "Wtf", which story is real?

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That is literally a suicide note found on someone before he mustered the nerve.

[-] b000rg@midwest.social 135 points 1 week ago

Damn Gen Z kids can't even write a full page manifesto anymore smdh

/s

[-] lgmjon64@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago

ChatGPT, write me a manifesto

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not even a whole book like they used to. SHM My Head.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 118 points 1 week ago

This sounds like a written confession or statement to the police, after he's already in police custody. Not a "manifesto", which is something justifying your actions to the public and done before carrying out whatever it is.

I'm not buying any of this. Someone who went to so much trouble planning, executing, and getting away without a trace, isn't going to go out in public with a bunch of incriminating items on their person. The NYPD probably just picked this tip out of the thousands they got, and are making things fit after the fact.

[-] daltotron@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 week ago

I really find it to be quite absurd that people are still thinking this isn't the guy. This is probably the guy. My basis for that is basically just that the shooter had a 200 dollar peak design redditor backpack and a uniqlo packable jacket when he shot that guy, and those are both heavily techbro-coded fashion items. That's on top of all the internet history of this specific guy pretty much indicating that he's the guy. Back problems, leading to a several month long disappearance, after he turns 26, and is no longer on his parent's healthcare plan.

We can also look at it through the lens of just the assassination attempt itself. The news is saying they found either a 3d printed gun, or more commonly, a ghost gun (which I have not been able to find a consistent account of). In either case, that involves buying a mostly unregulated firearm upper, and then either finishing an "80%" pre-assembled lower with a drill press, or probably even a regular cordless drill, or just wholesale printing the entire lower of the gun yourself. Both of those, are also techbro-coded methods of obtaining a firearm. Compared to just buying a somewhat common firearm in a state where it's pretty easy to get a gun a couple months before, and then shaving the serial numbers off the gun, or just getting a gun off the black market, or stealing one from someone, which all seem maybe easier than going the ghost gun route.

In the video itself, we see him struggle to cycle the gun manually, due what is probably a combination of using subsonic ammunition, and his suppressor, which I'm assuming did not have a nielsen device, or, a booster. Those are devices that are meant to help browning-style tilting barrel designs cycle much more reliably. They also tend to cycle less reliably with heavier baffled suppressors compared to much lighter, quieter, disposable, and easier to produce wipe-based suppressors.

His research and meticulously planned operation also consisted of shooting this guy in the back, in front of a camera, while this guy walked to his hotel. That's a plan that has a high percentage chance of success, it's the same way that you'd see many mob hits happen, but does it strike me as something which is particularly complicated or out of character for this guy, if he had a couple months to cook something up?

Based on the entire description of that chain of events, that would probably indicate that this is a somebody that's had some amount of preparation but wasn't some kind of professional or overwhelming genius. It could be the case that they dug around online for thirty minutes, happened to find a guy that had both disappeared for a couple months, had medical problems, was a little bit more conspiratorial, or rather, had incoherent politics, and would be the kind of guy who would dress in a peak design backpack and in a uniqlo jacket, and was ALSO a guy which was exiting new york at that time via bus. They would then have to plant evidence on him, which cops are known to do, but that's all, legitimately, entirely possible. Is it more likely than this being the guy, based on everything we've seen from the video?

I would say no, probably not, this is probably the guy.

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

There does seem to be inconsistency between the shooter meticulously planning things out and then this guy conveniently popping up at a McDonalds with all the gear and confessing. Seems like the first thing you'd do would be to ditch the gun and the silencer. If the gun was 3d printed, he could've literally just melted it down. On the flip side, if he wanted to get caught then he didn't have to do all this complex planning and could've just stayed at the scene and surrendered.

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[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 109 points 1 week ago

[indecipherable] is the new [redacted]

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[-] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 week ago

Reddit suppressing and removing all posts and even his account while Lemmy communities keep them all up. Feels good man

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[-] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago

This whole thing smells like horse shit. You hear so make stories about murderers ditching anything they had on them at the time of the crime. Rivers and lakes get dragged, forests are swept, every dumpster is turned upside down.

Yet, you're going to tell me homie was 300 miles away carrying everything he had still on him from the crime AND a literal confession note? Are they sure he wasn't waving air traffic controller sticks around on the freeway yelling, "IT WAS ME IT WAS ME"?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

At the very least it seems incongruous with leaving the state afterwards. If he was that fatalistic about being caught why didn't he just use a normal gun and drop it afterwards while he waited for the cops? He literally made a suppressed weapon and had a complex exit plan. That doesn't match up.

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[-] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 75 points 1 week ago

.world should not be removing articles from Ken Klippenstein. I detest the man for his methods and indiscretion (not necessarily in this instance), but he does post the facts as he receives them.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just remember which instance let you read this, and which one wouldn't let you.

.ml doesnt need to host a bi monthly feud posts like .world does. Their moderator actions are all the advertisements we need. Make an account and export your settings today! Lemmy.ml

[-] boywar3@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

I don't wanna get banned for saying China does bad things too lol

As long as you don't blindly repeat things from the US state dept without any critical thoughts you're fine. Look into things before you say them, China has plenty of issues, pick a real one.

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[-] lukes26@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago

I mean .world 100% sucks lol, and people should definitely move off it, but I'd also like people to move off .ml or any other general purpose instance since centralization on any one instance can cause issues imo. I'm considering switching off of .ee for the same reason. I think it makes more sense to have specific instances for specific things, so that the admins of one instance can have more domain specific knowledge ideally.

.world specifically does seem like they can't go more than a few weeks without some kind of drama though lol.

[-] SoleInvictus 28 points 1 week ago

The .ml/tankie witch hunts on .world are what got me to jump. It's just exhausting.

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[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 week ago

Post got removed in .world for not being a "news source" even though Klippenstein is definitely a very established independent journalist,

Unsurprising from .world

[-] Strawberry 26 points 1 week ago

.world doesn't allow journalism

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago

Their allowed articles are "Israel expands defensive buffer zone in Syria".

Top lol.

[-] RealistAF@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 week ago

This guy is a reminder that health is the most important thing in life. He lost his health which led him to lose it all.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

He lost it all because of capitalism.

[-] sp3f92@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

He lost it all because of ISM.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty

This is either disinformation or whatever asshole wrote this doesn't know US history.

You can still see the scars in the JP Morgan building in wall street from the horse drawn carriage bomb that was set against those greedy corporate assholes after the arrest of Sacco and Vanzetti in 1920

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_bombing

We have a long history of defending against their violence

[-] lukes26@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago

I can definitely see why someone not as well versed in anarchist history could believe that, or if they specifically meant against the insurance industry. Either way though, I think it's important for people to know about that history of violence that led to meaningful social reforms. So many Americans think that workers rights, civil rights, and everything short of the ~~abolishment~~ rebranding of slavery was won through voting or peaceful protests.

Too many people believe that somehow a state has some divine morality granted to it, and justice can only happen within the confines of said state. No moral act can be carried out without the government sanctioning it, and any miscarriage of justice by the state is an abnormality.

There may be a monopoly on violence held by states against their people, but this doesn't give them some inherent right to be the ultimate arbiters of justice. Something being legal does not make it moral, and just because an act is illegal doesn't make it immoral.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 week ago

To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country.

Interesting to point this out. This seems more like a liberal radicalized out of circumstance than a Marxist or Anarchist. I wonder what his course would have looked like had he channeled his energy into organizing and reading theory, would he have made the same decisions, or not?

[-] lukes26@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago

Yeah based on his goodreads and other social media he's definitely more of US style Libertarian or conservative. He tweeted some stuff about wokeness and DEI, some of the new athiesm junk about how athiests replace Christianity with worship of social issues, and seemed to like Elon Musk. He also didn't seem to be fully committed to the ideology though, he had real criticisms of Jordan Peterson and he seemed to be an environmentalist. He honestly just kinda seems like a normal, if privileged, person. He has a mix of political ideas, some which don't necessarily mesh, and is willing to criticize some of the people he agrees with.

But if anything him being someone who seemed to like CEOs, who grew up pretty wealthy, being radicalized by the industry is kinda a stronger message about how unless you're one of the corporate elite you don't matter to them.

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

Very few people fit neatly into a political label. We tend to be all over the place on political issues.

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[-] hollerpixie@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago

Interesting read. However this turns out, not a huge fan of .world removing it, similar to the centralized sites you'd expect to suppress stuff. Stopped following their news thread for this reason as I don't need my information moderated- can do that myself.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago
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