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submitted 4 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

Internet sleuths, who often assist in high-profile investigations, are notably silent on the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

Popular figures like TizzyEnt and Savannah Sparks cited disinterest, with some expressing disdain for the U.S. healthcare system, which has faced heightened criticism amid record-low public satisfaction.

Many online users appear apathetic, failing to empathize with the wealthy victim.

The lack of engagement contrasts with past cases like Gabby Petito’s, where online communities played key roles. Meanwhile, the NYPD continues its investigation, releasing surveillance footage and offering a $10,000 reward for tips.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 182 points 4 months ago

Failing to empathize with the wealthy victim

Lmao

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 96 points 4 months ago

Is it because I suck at English (non-native speaker) or are they straight up blaming people for not empathizing with that (former) waste of oxygen?

[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago

That's the implication.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

Yes, but also going a bit further and suggesting that lack of empathy is primarily because he was a rich person rather than the untold hardships he's inflicted on countless families

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Why can't it be both?

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago

Ironically, he wasn't even the most paid among other healthcare CEOs.

I don't feel sorry for him, as making money on misfortune of others is very low.

Though there are even worse people, and not necessarily in insurance industry.

The serial impregnator of everything that moves now is interested to influence our government to cut "unnecessary" spending, which likely will hurt much more people.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 57 points 4 months ago

"Making money on the misfortune of others" is a way too charitable way of describing what he was doing.

He was making money by making people die. Often in slow, excruciating ways that drained them and their families of all of their wealth and hope along the path.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 4 months ago

it's the for profit medical system that drains their wealth moreso than the insurance. it's just much harder to find someone to put a bullet or 2 into for that particular one.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 19 points 4 months ago

I mean yes but UHC in particular was horrible about it. And by horrible I mean they went from average to three times worse than the industry average with this guy in charge. I think even your average insurance company CEO would hate to be compared to him.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 2 points 4 months ago

the underlying system is the reason these parasites have this kind of power. Yes they would find another way to be a drain on society without it but would they be mass murderers?

I think even your average insurance company CEO would hate to be compared to him.

because he was the lowest paid and got what he deserved?

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago

Whiel the for profit medical system isnt helping the insurance companies are making it a hell of a lot worse. They are basically working as a flat x4 modifier on how shtty it is.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 4 months ago

I mean all insurance is a scam but how bad could it be if you had affordable healthcare in the first place?

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

Thats exactly the flaw in your thoughts, medical prices are pretty well correlated with what the average that folks can afford when insurance isnt a factor I believe its Singapore who has a system like that. The problem accurs with insurance working as an amplifier to a kinda shit system.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah we get charged a huge amount, then the insurance companies pay the hospital some smaller amount after “negotiating”

If you go to the hospital and tell them you’re uninsured, your bill is drastically different from the insured billing. It’s all a fucking racket between for-profit hospitals, drug companies, pharmacies, and insurers.

And now it’s such a big racket that a 1/3rd(?) of our economy is tied up in it. And that also means 1/3rd of our retirement savings is tied to these shitmonster’s stock prices.

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

It’s those skimming off the top that keep the for profit system going.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Still, it's the message that matters.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It was the standard "terrible tragedy" blah blah "thoughts and prayers".

The actual message we saw was from Trump Jr "Internet do your thing, let's find this guy".

The new president elect so far nominated 14 billionaires in his cabinet (do you think they are there to improve our lives?) yet OP tries to imply that Democrats are pro oligarchs, as we are about to have oligarchs ruling is from the "anti-establishment" president.

Want to fight injustice, maybe start with those.

[-] halykthered@lemmy.ml 153 points 4 months ago

I would say "failing to empathize" is not correct. Failing implies trying. Calling him a victim seems disengenuous as well. Even if the shooter is a contract killer, there's no way he has a higher KDR than the parasite he capped.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 months ago

I'm might be disinclined to empathize.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 59 points 4 months ago
[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Given that people have been manipulated and have lost all control to the wealthy, this may be the only "solution" left. Ironic that the well armed right may end up leading the way.

[-] Armaver@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Why ironic?

[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago

Succeeding to empathize? Feels more accurate.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 104 points 4 months ago

Brian Thompson was a mass murderer. It’s not hard to understand why people wouldn’t want to help, here.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Yup and I wish more people would connect the dots on how much pain, suffering, and mass murder every top American company commits on a daily basis.

Indirect violence is the number one problem in capitalism. Remember all the train derailments or Boeing planes dropping out of the sky? Those failures were by design to increase profits. If our politicians and "justice system" isn't going to hold the people who make decisions and those decisions harm people, accountable. Vigilante justice is going to be on the rise.

Mark my word. Every Fortune 500 company leadership needs to be put on notice. America has given up on political means to make meaningful positive change. And with Trump, there is no safety net (what little there was remaining) and the wealthy are going to be killed at an alarming rate. We're near rock bottom and Trump and conservatives is scrabbling to cash out as fast as possible.

[-] SkyeStarfall 4 points 4 months ago

It's always endlessly frustrating when people don't realize, or don't want to realize, what you wrote

[-] tiefling 15 points 4 months ago

As far as I'm concerned, this guy is a hero the same way someone who stops a mass shooting in progress is a hero

[-] FundMECFSResearch 102 points 4 months ago

Corporate media is hilarious.

I love how them and the NYT say it’s a “fringe theory” that the writing on the bullets had anything to do with insurance practices.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 56 points 4 months ago

Although Sparks, 34, has been tapped by law enforcement in the past to help train officers on how to find suspects online, according to emails seen by NBC News, she said this time she isn’t interested in helping police.

Sparks, who also works in health care as a lactation consultant and holds a doctorate of pharmacy, didn’t mince words when asked if her community was working to find the suspect in Thompson’s murder.

“Absolutely the f--- not,” she said.

Beautiful.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

I keep seeing all these headlines about "top internet sleuths" and I feel like I would have written that sarcastically but I'm starting to become concerned that these " journalists" are serious about the phrase.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 16 points 4 months ago

I am no sleuth, but I wouldn't turn this guy in for 25 million dollars. United Healthcare denied a relative of mine emergency Healthcare when their policies said they would.

As for AI helping... the AI used by unitedhealth had a 90% failure rate and the military AI used by Israel had used to allegedly differentiate civilians from military basically tagged everyone as a target.

So I am not particularly looking forward to it.

[-] TheBraveSirRobbin@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I will say I do not condone what the shooter did and hope we find him. Either in 50 years with a deathbed confession or sooner in a case with jury nullification

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

Why don't you condone it? Justice is good, right? Do you believe justice would be done through the justice system, which the ultra-wealthy have perverted to protect them? If not, how do you want justice to be served?

The justice system exists to give people a method to see justice done that doesn't require vigilantism. When that system no longer works, what option is left to turn to? Should we just let them get away with whatever they want just because they've purchased the system?

[-] TheBraveSirRobbin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I'm not sure if you read what I wrote because we said very similar things

[-] Pazu900@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I condone it

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Isn't there like a statute limitation?

[-] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

there is no statute of limitations for murder

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago

I don't know why this is news.

Most of the people I know that are analytical enough to sleuth out this kind of thing are also socially aware enough to support universal healthcare.

The individual in question profited off the literal suffering of others by endorsing, creating, or otherwise allowing his company to deny claims for any, and every reason they could. It doesn't matter if he personally denied coverage to anyone; he was responsible for everything the company he was the executive officer of, did.

To that end, he's profited from the suffering of those who were denied help.

He's a piece of shit and the world has been made better because he is no longer a part of it.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I'll do it for 10 million using Chat gpt!.... The first clue is free!

"Sure! I'll help you find your hero! Have you looked behind the couch?"

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

it only takes one to fuck it all up.

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

No, I won't.

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