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[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 159 points 1 month ago

The glee peasants are showing should make the 1% nervous

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago

I’ve been thinking that ever since that dumb “submarine” sank at the Titanic. I don’t feel particularly sorry for the people who died (other than the kid who apparently didn’t want to be there in the first place), but the outright glee I saw a lot of people express online was surprising.

It seems like there was a largely unspoken agreement among the wealthiest in the West throughout the middle of the 20th century, particularly in the aftermath of the Depression, World War II, and the rise of communism, that they wouldn’t try to extract the absolute maximum of wealth from the workers and try to keep a stable, happy middle class and even lower class that had a relatively comfortable existence without feeling too at risk of losing everything. As you get to the end of that century and into this century, the wealthiest forgot why that policy existed, newcomers didn’t understand it, or they decided they wanted to see how much more extraction they could get away with thinking they’ll be able to reign in any unrest before it gets too bad; probably some combination of those and other factors. It’s a dangerous game to play, though, and it seems like explosive moments are closer than the wealthy powers realize.

Not that I think there’s any real organizing power behind the scenes, just that in the past a lot of people came to a collective understanding of a system that could bring a lot of financial stability to a lot of people.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

It seems like there was a largely unspoken agreement among the wealthiest in the West throughout the middle of the 20th century, particularly in the aftermath of the Depression, World War II, and the rise of communism, that they wouldn’t try to extract the absolute maximum of wealth from the workers and try to keep a stable, happy middle class and even lower class that had a relatively comfortable existence without feeling too at risk of losing everything.

Actually, the richest people in America were terrified of FDR and the New Deal, and even attempted a fascist coup in order to overthrow him. Fun fact, George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was implicated in it!

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Smedley Butler was a goddamn hero and should've been the next president

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[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Buddy look at the tax code post great depression. There was no agreement the government said fuck you pay them.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

As you get to the end of that century and into this century, the wealthiest forgot why that policy existed

The collapse of the Soviet Union removed the threat of an alternative and "proved" that capitalism was the superior ideology, pushing their confidence that they could do no wrong through the roof.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Not much formal organizing needs to happen, based on the way this particular CEO found out.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

It seems like there was a largely unspoken agreement among the wealthiest in the West throughout the middle of the 20th century, particularly in the aftermath of the Depression, World War II, and the rise of communism, that they wouldn’t try to extract the absolute maximum of wealth from the workers and try to keep a stable

Thats because we stopped them, they always try as much as they are allowed to.

[-] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

The deregulation of the 80s and 90s really screwed this country over.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

Same with the UK and privatisation

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

In summary: Neoliberalism.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Neoliberals always surprise me, How do they think that more neoliberalism will fix problems caused by neoliberalism?

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

It's "rein in any unrest". I'm not pointing this out to be a grammar nazi, but because "reign in" is an interesting slip in the context of your post.

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[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

I fully agree. If I were a billionaire, I would be "let's get a team together and come up with a strategy" levels of nervous. See, the 1% has sort of dehumanized themselves, by creating this decades-long narrative that they're this untouchable caste almost on the level of Demigods, and the closer you get to God, the further you get from Human. Now that one has been shot and killed in broad daylight in the middle of NYC, and again with the idiots on the homemade submarine, that narrative is obviously untrue. When a dragon is slain, we don't mourn its death, we cheer the Dragonslayer. So, if I were in the 1%, I'd be very worried about appearing all too human, all too quickly.

[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Doomsday bunkers were an obsession back in the 2000s for billionaires. If you think about their ideas from that framework it puts some of their stupid inventions into perspective. The cybertruck is the vehicle Musk would want to be in during a riot against him if he isn't on Mars at the time.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Considering how fragile it is, its the vehicle i hope he's in in a riot against him

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[-] Fern@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago

What is happening in this meme?

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 108 points 1 month ago

The meme is usually disapproval of something followed by approval of something that basically the same thing. The approval is of a CEO being murdered, but advocating violence is against the rules so the "approval" has been removed by moderators.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 month ago

Drake was unfortunately turned into a meme at some point in the past. There are alternatives available. Can I offer you a laforge version for your next meme?

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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[-] SnugZebras 13 points 1 month ago

The "happy drake" reaction is removed by mods, like comments about it.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

Does anyone know who the shooter was? I want to send them roses.

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

Nice try, NYPD

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[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

Sometimes things line up in a way that seems intentional.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

What the FUCK.

[-] florencia 23 points 1 month ago
[-] Nougat@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago

They forgot "We're going to need prior authorization."

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago

What do you think the chance is that this becomes a trend?

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

If America went from school shootings to billionaire shootings I wouldn't be mad. Think billionaires can afford pretty good security details though.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

I mean, it really is the only thing left

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 7 points 1 month ago

So many here showing their true colors and demonstrating that they're actually no better than the people they oppose.

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

See my other comment:

When a dragon is slain, we don't mourn its death, we cheer the Dragonslayer.

[-] greencactus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I disagree with this metaphor. Humans aren't inherently evil, in contrast to the dragon. Even though the guy definitely did evil shit as a CEO and is responsible for thousands of dead people, he is not fully evil. I'm very sure he also did good things.

For me this is really important, because that's exactly why I oppose death penalty. No human is absolutely evil, and thus in every person there is something worth preserving and being protected.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dragons aren't inharently evil either. They mostly just want to horde wealth. Sure, they do evil things to amass that wealth, but that doesn't make them evil, right?

Wait, was this about dragons or the ultra-wealthy? I forgot what I was talking about.

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[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

A couple things. I don't see any billionaire as a human, and to be frank, they did it to themselves. They've spent decades spinning a narrative that they're this special untouchable caste of modern-day demigods. That we have to try them differently and respectfully, because they have more money, and the closer you get to "God", the further you get from "Human".

Secondly, he chose to do evil. He willingly and without hesitation discarded his humanity. I can't be bothered to feel bad for someone like that.

[-] greencactus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I disagree. Still thank you for replying - I appreciate it. It got me thinking about my personal position.

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[-] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

humans aren't inherently evil. Most aren't, I agree. But some just are.

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[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

It's all fun and games as long as you get to decice who the dragons are. The people you oppose have their's too.

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

the people we oppose have been widening the wealth gap, shrinking the middle class, and pushing more people into poverty. And in America - not having enough money means you, or your loved one, dies.

That particular dragon was in charge of denying as many insurance claims as possible without getting anyone too ravenous for his blood. He was playing a game with people's lives, eventually he was bound to lose. His true cause of death was greed.

Unless you're a billionaire who hoards wealth, you're no dragon, and nobody cares about you until you step out of line of being an obedient money cow

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

(The ones hoarding the wealth like dragons are the dragons)

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Well, really, they did it to themselves. We didn't turn them into greedy, avaricious weath-hoarding dragons, they did. The closer one moves the slider to "God", the further it moves from "Human".

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 month ago

What do you mean by this? Should people who cause incalculable harm to others not be removed from their position to cause harm?

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

Literally celebrating the murder of a person is what I mean.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Listen Batman, the world isnt black and white. A man who has harmed millions has seen punishment for harming millions. Whether or not you find it just because a judge, jury, and prosecution didn't get to decide on that punishment according to some made up rules is your opinion. It does not speak to the "true colors" of the oppressed groups who are affected by the bullshit machine that is US healthcare.

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[-] Skepticpunk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Law is typically enforced at the end of a gun. If the government won't do anything to stop these people, someone else will.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago
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