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South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declared martial law late Tuesday to counter "anti-state" forces, accusing opposition lawmakers of pro-North Korean sympathies.

Parliament, controlled by the opposition, quickly voted to nullify the declaration, calling it unconstitutional.

Protesters and lawmakers denounced Yoon's move as authoritarian, echoing South Korea's pre-democracy era.

Military personnel withdrew following the vote, and Yoon promised to lift martial law after a Cabinet meeting.

Critics warned of democratic backsliding. This marks South Korea's first martial law declaration since democratization in 1987.

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[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago

It's "refreshing" to see conservative leaders in other countries are just as insane and inept as they are in the West.

[-] rabber@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

Misery loves company

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

What are you comparing it to? Trumpman? because that's totally different.

[-] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

Trump would certainly never abuse his power for personal political gain, that’s very true, as long as we ignore * squints at phone * all of the evidence

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

No. I'm saying the US has no neighboring country threatening them every day and undermining their government.

If you compare it to the US it would look more like Biden invoking martial law because he thinks Trump is a Russian puppet.

So Trump threatening with martial law for immigrants (and probably lgbt+ communities) is quite different.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

We don't need geographic neighbors to undermine us when they can do it over the Internet.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Even then I think we’ve been proving a foreign government can fuck up another country from the other side of the world since at least 1492.

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 56 points 2 weeks ago

Both the majority party (which is the party of the president) and the opposition party are saying this is unconstitutional. So hopefully they have some actions they can take to curtail it.

[-] Object@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

It's really like a movie.

I mean in terms of how long it lasted lol

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

This is huge, pinning for a bit.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 weeks ago

Wat.

Well, glad it didn't work.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't it? Sounds like things aren't getting better.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Uhh, I just read the summery. A moment.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 13 points 2 weeks ago

The BBC reports the military isn't gonna listen to the vote

It's like 4am there though so might be quiet for a bit.

General strike called for by one of the big unions too until Yoon resigns

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Jesus Christ.

Edit: Okay, he said he's going to withdraw it, like he's supposed to when the parliament votes for it, but this is such a whirlwind I have to expect the unexpected.

[-] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

It is a good practice to doubt the pinkie promises of wannabe dictators

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, it sure is. In geopolitics there's no actual binding rules, just threats and relationships.

BBC is now reporting that the cabinet has lifted the martial law, which I assume means the immediate threat is over, without knowing how South Korean constitutional procedures work. There's still a damn lot of "pieces to pick up", though.

[-] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

That should immediately end your turn as a president IMO.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's pretty much what the parliamentarians are saying, it sounds like.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

I hope they impeach that clown.

[-] Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

In all likelihood, that seems to be the case. I'd wager that since the people were shouting outside the parliament building that he should be impeached, plus that said parliament is mostly ran by the Opposition at this time, it's fair to call it. Plus the fact that their military said this: "Following Yoon’s announcement of martial law, South Korea’s military proclaimed that parliament and other political gatherings that could cause “social confusion” would be suspended, South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said. The military said anyone who violated the decree could be arrested without a warrant."

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like they need to clean house in the military leadership as well.

[-] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

What if Trump tries to do it during his administration?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago

The easiest way to survive Kristal Nacht 2: Electric Boogaloo is to get outta there before it happens. Stockpiling some food and "hunkering down" isn't gonna keep you safe. Get outta there.

What does America offer that you can't get in Europe, Canada, Australia, etc?

Brain drain the fascist state to a standstill.

The earlier you do it, the higher your chances of being accepted into other countries. They may block American refugees if there becomes an exodus. It also means you have time to sell unnecessary items instead of possibly having to abandon them.

Good luck, whatever path you choose.

[-] KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Please tell me which countries are taking refugees from the United States without needing to have first found employment and applying to immigrate through the normal process, without being explicit members of a protected class. Or even if you are.

Because to my knowledge, that doesn't currently exist. Meaning its only attainable for people already in the top 10% economically.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

There is no refugee for Americans. The basis for refugee is an existing imminent threat, not a looming threat.

Your only chance might be places like Russia or China that would be happy to declare the US to be so dangerous they had to take you in as refugee for political gains.

[-] BlesthThySoul@lemy.lol 2 points 2 weeks ago

Americans refugees in other countries...

Quite a show that will be...

But but but will the Americans cope up with the lifestyle of other countries which are thought to be beneath the mighty US...

😹😹😹

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

If you're white, wear a lot of red, agree with stuff, hide anything remotely questionable and mind your p's and q's until the circus implodes.

If you're brown, Latino, gay, LGBTQ+... run far as fuck away, then keep running.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Start saving money and storing bulk dry goods. General strike, out and out street fights, who knows.

Just be ready to shelter in place or get outta wherever you are.

[-] stackPeek@kbin.earth 7 points 2 weeks ago

Whoa, I woke up to this

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

You'd think a military staffed by citizen conscripts would balk at something like this. Hopefully they hang the leaders out to dry before they decide they've got nothing to lose by couping.

[-] PyroNeurosis 9 points 2 weeks ago

Really, I'm more appalled at Yoon on this one. What kind of ignorant chump fails to gain the unquestionable support of the military before going all in on a military coup?

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Coups are always gambles

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

In reality, if someone is a politician working within the state, they're not actually "anti-state".

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