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submitted 2 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.

The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.

Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.

Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.

This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago

I've been a supporter since I was first able to vote for Obama's first term. Not anymore, guys. You don't do enough for us but virtue-signal when you have the ability to and you only think about yourselves when you don't. I just don't believe in them. They don't stop fascism, they pause it, and in some cases, contribute to it by their cowardice, and pardoning his son is just taking a shit on all of us right before he leaves.

I fully intend to do as much for the Democratic party of America going forward, as they have done for me, by ignoring them and pretending they don't exist.

then the fascists will win

What's this will shit? Buckle up, buttercup. The time for voting has passed. We're in the endgame now.

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[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Trump's entire stchick is gaming every system to manipulate things in his favour. The Dems always take the higher ground and always get pounded. Every single time - Gore in 2000, particularly.

If Biden 'pardons' his son to ameliorate Hunter's political persecution, then it's a step in the right direction to push back. Tame as it is, the Dems better learn to fight fire with napalm before all is lost.

[-] sushibowl@feddit.nl 25 points 2 weeks ago

I disagree. There is pushing back for political gain, and pushing back for personal gain. Pardoning hunter is certainly an example of Biden abandoning the moral high ground. However it does not advance the cause of the democratic party in any way and only serves Joe Biden and his family personally. This is not a step in the right direction, it gives up moral correctness only to make the political position of the Democrats worse.

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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 21 points 2 weeks ago

"Political persecution". LMFAO He ran around with guns while being high and evaded taxes. Bidens claim that his son was "singled out" only applies in the logic of rich white people, who expect the system to protect them from the law.

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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

It's almost like our government only really functions to bail out rich/well-connected fuck ups. What's new?

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[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not surprised and I don't really care. Last time I checked the charges against him were kinda bullshit and it was clear to me that red team was pushing for him to face charges out of spite. It's funny to see Trump get mad about it though, he would have pardoned his own kid a long time ago if he were in that position. Well, maybe not Eric, but definitely Don Jr, Ivanka, or maybe the other ones.

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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 24 points 2 weeks ago

The GOP has zero moral fibers to stand on. Joe free yourself from these Nazi shits.

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 21 points 2 weeks ago

It's bullshit that this is even controversial.

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[-] tiefling 21 points 2 weeks ago

Meh, fuck it. Our justice system is dead.

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[-] mdurell@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Of course he did. If you thought otherwise you were gullible. Politicians lie and party affiliation makes no difference. Save the outrage for the truly outrageous things the next 4 years are going to bring.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What's funny is the expectation by so many here that a guy "unwaveringly supporting" people mass murdering children for their etnicity would have the Morals to not pardon his own son when he can do it at no cost to himself.

Like all other sociopaths only considerations about "consequences" drive his choices.

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[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

That ship sailed 4 years ago with Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, Mike Flynn, George Papadopoulos, etc.

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[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

The only time precedent ever matters to conservatives is if it works in their favor.

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[-] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

"Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers."

Both things are true though. The pardon power exists as a check on the judicial branch, so it certainly undermines it in the same way that the veto undermines legislative decisions by congress. The constitution gives the president the authority to do some pretty blatant undermining, but checks work in the other direction too if the branches are acting as co-equals and not just shilling for one of the others.

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans seemed to have successfully done a false equivalency. They lied about witch hunts and then did one, and then when the president swatted it away people reacted with, "Oh, they're both the same."

Trump pardons traitors, insurrectionists, Nazis. A witch hunt victim is in the same league, because family I guess. Not like that was the reason for the witch hunt or anything!

[-] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I would be fine with this IF he also used the expanded powers granted to him by Trump's Supreme Court to block the incoming fascist/monarchist takeover. Or, fine, don't try to block them with anything that gives the courts a chance to clarify that ruling, but also don't transfer power smoothly and peacefully to these bastards in any way shape or form, you know? If you're saying "fuck it", then fuck ALL of it; not just the parts of it that affect you personally.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck it, I'd do the same. Potentially 25 years in prison for non-violent crimes is ridiculous. Might as well use the power to prevent it while you still have it.

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[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

A pretty mundane act of fatherhood. If you had the power to prevent your kid from going to jail for something that was done a 5 years ago most people would do it. It wasn't a violent crime that he is being pardoned from so its not that much different than all the pardons Trump did in his first term for all the fraud convictions.

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