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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 366 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fuck Elon. Fuck Tesla.

I was their target demographic and Elon made sure that I never even consider their trash. I went BMW instead.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 145 points 3 weeks ago

This is why Elonia is asking trump to impose tariffs on Canada and Mexico. Other car manufacturers started biting into Tesla market share this year.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Poor Queen Elonia.

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[-] VeganCheesecake 30 points 3 weeks ago

BMW lobbies against non-car based infrastructure and car industry regulation here in Germany. Biggest shareholder is the Quandt family, who are descendant from literal Nazis, and now use part of their billions to fund the conservatives (at least they aren't giving it to the far-right. Yet.)

So yeah, fuck Elon, but fuck BMW too.

[-] JokklMaster@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah fine me a car company that's not like that. Living in the US it's a necessity to have a car so just gonna nix that argument. I bought a Toyota to get ultimate reliability (yes Honda is basically equal) but I'm sure they both have done equally terrible shit. And when I'm not in grad school I want to go back to a BMW because they are great cars to drive. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism so just try to enjoy your life where you can.

[-] VeganCheesecake 17 points 3 weeks ago

On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, if you're saying you bought from brand A, not B, specifically because the big boss of B is a shithead, I feel like it's valid to point out the ways the big boss of A is shit too.

Since everyone is shit, I dunno, buy used, I guess.

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[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 weeks ago

never owned a BMW, or a Tesla for that matter, but I've heard they're just as bad when it comes to being money hungry

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There is no such thing as a benevolent corporation. Don't feed the fascists. Don't give your money to Elon.

EDIT: Autocorrect derp

[-] themoken@startrek.website 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I mean, fuck Elon and Tesla but if you're spending money on a car you're giving it to a bastard one way or another. The CEOs of Ford, BMW, et. al. might not be making asses of themselves on the global stage, but I'm sure they're still horrible. Even used cars run on gas 99% of the time.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 weeks ago

There are levels of bad. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good (or in this case, only slightly better).

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

A friend bought a new BMW. Everything is controlled with an app. There's also an interface in the car itself, obviously, but the app has more functions.

Things like seat heating, air conditioner, enhanced cruise control and all the fancy things are only available if you subscribe to one of the three offerings.

I just glanced over the app, so i don't remember the names, but it went like the usual: basic, premium, platinum.

Prices were in the range of 200, 400, 700 euros a fucking month.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah choosing BMW is a strange choice against something like Tesla when they are doing the same sort of thing. I won’t criticize the “I’m rich so I bought an expensive car” thing, that can happen elsewhere, but the idea that BMW is the lesser of the evils isn’t really accurate.

I wish we were in a world where we could more easily avenge our terrible upbringing in this system moment after moment like Geralt, where if we’re to choose between the lesser of two evils, we’d rather not choose at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0i88t0Kacs

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[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

That BMW iDrive looks good but if it's all app and touchscreen based... Imma skip.

TBH though, all the damn nice EVs are touch screens or bubble crossovers.

Why the fuck do I want to drive a bubble. I want to drive an electric car. Take the Ford Mustang, put the electric parts in it, and don't turn it into a crossover. Take the Toyota 86, put electric parts in it. Do not turn it into a cross over.

Idk take any fucking car that looks like a fun car and goddamn it, put electric parts in it, don't add touchscreens, and don't stick your lips on the wand of soap and blow into the frame making it a goddamn bubble crossover.

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[-] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

I went Audi but to be completely honest Hyundai and Kia make the best EVs.

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[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 198 points 3 weeks ago

Similar vibes than Reddit api pricing

Reddit got the idea from Elon's twitter API fees. This is Elon being consistent(ly terrible).

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 153 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

API pricing is such a shitty obnoxious dogshit practice that is now of course becoming standard because of course it is. internet barely costs money come the fuck on make a quality product

It used to be a respected standard for developers and hosts to be somewhat open and friendly to 3rd party devs, because ultimately they're customers and they're helping recruit and retain customers, they should be treated with respect. just because it's innovative and disruptive to invent the machine gun doesn't mean it's good

[-] smitty825@lemmy.world 98 points 3 weeks ago

The internet (ie bandwidth) is cheap, but running servers, providing documentation and tech support all costs a decent amount of money.

However, treating an API as a profit center is a joke. These are literally companies developing software that makes the experience of owning a Tesla better. Making things unaffordable for those companies is putting short term profits over long term success of your product

[-] Gingernate@programming.dev 31 points 3 weeks ago

But 90k is nothing to Tesla, it's just a paywall to keep the third party devs put while being able to claim to be open

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

just because it’s innovative and disruptive to invent the machine gun doesn’t mean it’s good

That's a great Maxim.

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[-] Rookeh@startrek.website 118 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Something to note: Tesla has two vehicle APIs, the Fleet API for commercial accounts and the Owner API for individuals. This change currently only impacts the Fleet API.

If you are an individual owner who accesses your vehicle data from the Owner API (usually via a self hosted tool like TeslaMate), this does not affect you. Yet.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago

Hey kid, don’t waste your breath defending corporations. You will end up being wrong in the end, and before that you just look like a fool.

[-] Rookeh@startrek.website 76 points 2 weeks ago

Highlight where in the above post I am defending anything.

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[-] cupcakezealot 114 points 2 weeks ago

stop buying tesla, stop supporting spacex, and stop buying starlink

[-] hirage@lemmy.eco.br 32 points 2 weeks ago

And stop using Xitter.

^^ this. In America the only vote that really matters is the one you do with your wallet.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

But what launch provider should I use then?

Boeing? No, I don't think so.

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[-] kalleboo@lemmy.world 93 points 2 weeks ago

Another reminder to developers to not bother with public APIs, just screen-scrape or reverse-engineer the official app private API.

[-] glassware@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

Really the lesson is, don't run a business that 100% depends on another company.

[-] fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This. It's a recipe for disaster. I think enough (tech-related) companies have shown now, that they first want to lock you in, and then if they got you, want to bleed you out...

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[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm surprised devs didn't see the writing on the wall after Twitter all but murdered its API

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[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 weeks ago

Reminds me of the Fall Out Boy song “Dead on Arrival”.

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[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

One more reason I’m glad I bought a car with CarPlay / Android Auto support.

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[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

When Twitter (and Reddit) pulled this off, I was just mildly pissed. Can't do interesting things with my data, oh no.

...Image that, except it's an expensive luxury car you're no longer allowed to do interesting things with.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago

Hehehe, we all know how that's like. I'm sure this income will truly be used to improve their services and support robust and reliable API infrastructure.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

There's no laws against profiteering?

[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Tesla is an American company, in Texas, at that.

It wouldn't matter if there were.

[-] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago
[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago

Penises should be loved.

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine trying to sell cars and then pulling some shit like this

[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 14 points 3 weeks ago

What’s the data? The article says the app was fleet management? So location and remote opening doors or something?

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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

I hate subscription services. And I hate money-grubbing corps. Especially when they try to profit off of your own data.

That said, this is not that as infeasible as it sounds. The dev for Tessie reportedly has 400k users. That’s roughly $12.50/month per user. Modestly speaking, if the dev charged their users $13/mo, he’d profit $2.4 million per year. For $15/mo, he would profit $12 million per year.

That’s probably what Tesla is hoping their devs would do. And I’m sure a lot of Tesla owners could afford the fee.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 88 points 3 weeks ago

You're ignoring transaction costs.

Also $15/month is batshit insane.

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