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Three separate places I went to at 8 in the morning. Gas station, dunkin' donuts, and then a convenience store. All of them, trash is full. People wonder why they litter in the USA, there's nowhere to throw away trash when you're out. It's unbelievable People can just go to work and choose not to do their job anymore. That people see this and they don't have any problem with it, no interest at all to keep things neat and tidy and clean. Nope.

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[-] Nikelui@lemmy.world 263 points 3 weeks ago

In Japan it's almost impossible to find a trash can on the streets and yet people don't litter. The problem is the culture centered around consumerism and waste.

[-] Routhinator@startrek.website 163 points 3 weeks ago

This. Throwing your trash on the ground because you can't find a trash can amounts to childish entitlement in my eyes.

No trash cans in the forest, is OP saying they just litter all through nature when they go camping?

[-] Blum0108@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I fill up a trash bag every time I go hiking

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Keep up the good fight! I've got several miles of trail cleaned behind my hood, one more major path to go!

Maybe you do this, if not, take a plastic retail bag, fold it over twice, while pressing the air out, roll it up tight and rubber band it. I always have 2-4 highly compact bags.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 24 points 3 weeks ago

I once dropped a water bottle out of my backpack, and couldn't find it when I retraced my hike, but I did start noticing tons of trash everywhere.

So I started keeping a trash bag in my backpack, and filling a small bag every time I hike.

I may not have found my bottle, but I'll make sure I clean up more than I left every time I'm out.

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[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

they just litter all through nature when they go camping

Many americans do just that, yes. :'(

[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It's somewhat comforting to know that no matter how far out in the wild you go you eventually find signs of humanity.

The fact those signs are pieces of trash that someone either left or blew in on the wind is depressing.

[-] spookex@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Funnily enough that's where I find most of the litter in Japan, like, if you go to any non-main road that goes through a bit of forest, you will see signs threatening fines for littering, with a bunch of trash tossed in that exact area.

I have seen cans, bottles, ACs, TVs, baby car seats, bags, and general household trash. Also found a golf club once that I actually brought home because I thought that it was neat. And this is only along a single stretch of road that is only like 1km long.

So Japan isn't some miracle society that doesn't litter, it's just that they do it someplace that is somewhat out of sight.

[-] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago

With respect to Japan, there's definitely a culture difference, but I don't think it's the consumerism/waste culture. There's so much excess packaging in Japanese food products.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but do they wolf down a half pound of meat plus fried potatoes and a half gallon of sugar water four times a day in Japan?

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 11 points 3 weeks ago

Possibly, where are you going with this?

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[-] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 129 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Get what you pay for. The minimum wage is still 7.25 federally. I can’t believe employers just choose not to pay livable wages.

Lose me with this “nobody wants to work anymore” bullshit. Nobody wants to pay anymore.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago

It's another true half statement the middle management refuses to complete. "Nobody wants to work anymore for the wages offered for these types of jobs". Same old story as middle management accepting "the customer is always right" (and entitling shitty customers) without finishing it with "in terms of market trends"

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Don't worry, you'll soon get massive tax cuts for companies and their executives, while basic goods get 25%-35% pricier for the worker class due to the tariffs since the orange potato has to fun those tax cuts somehow.

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[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 81 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Or, hear me out... carry it until you find one with room? If finding full trash cans "forces" you to litter, that says more about you being an entitled piece of shit than it does about anything else.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

"I couldn't find a single vacant public toilet, so I did what any sensible person would do and took a shit in the middle of the sidewalk." —OP, analogously

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[-] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 15 points 3 weeks ago

Especially in the US where people drive everywhere more often than not. Keep a small trash bag in your car, empty it when you get home.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 9 points 3 weeks ago

The trouble with that approach is that my garbage cans fill up at home, and I'm too lazy to take them out to the dumpster.

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[-] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 61 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Personally, if I see a full trash can I will keep my trash with me until I can find a place to dispose of it. I can’t imagine just throwing it on the ground regardless of the can situation.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 20 points 3 weeks ago

I've had plenty of times where I get home and empty my pockets of the trash I accumulated with no can nearby.

And if I try to put something in a can and it falls out, I'm taking it with me because I didn't succeed in throwing it away.

Shrugging ans saying "well I tried" as you walk away isn't even trying.

[-] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Japanese people do that as trash bins are very rare. It is an education issue and not the lack/full of trash binsy

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[-] kamills@sh.itjust.works 54 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like the solution to having some trash while the trash can is full, is to...just carry it with you till you find an empty one?

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[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago

This post gives me "people don't want to work anymore" vibes.

Another way to look at it is, people don't want to pay people to work anymore. Either the pay is such shit that the employees have no incentive to give a crap, or the employer doesn't hire enough people to get the work done.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You don't even know how fast these damn bins fill up. I'm a janitor at McDonald's, and move between 5 locations (same franchise owner). The two that are in a highway rest stop kind of area that get the most customers have several cans around the parking lot. I empty them before the restaurant even opens, and all or most of them are already full by my first break. There's only ever 1 janitor on shift at a time and we can't be everywhere all the time. Something I have had to explain to the owner who constantly gets on my ass about the cans in the parking lot being full. "Do you want me to just spend all day making sure the garbage cans are empty or shall I do the other tasks I have as well?"

The bins themselves look pretty large with the huge stone enclosure they're in; but the actual can inside is not even as big as a standard home kitchen bin, and the amount of trash generated by a single to-go meal from the restaurant is pretty nuts. And this is just from a fast food place. The bins placed by the city or municipality probably have even less of a chance to be serviced when the employees who do that are also in charge of cleaning the park bathrooms, mowing the grass, trimming trees and shrubs, fixing road signs, etc.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 weeks ago

Not all heroes wear capes.

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[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There's a litter bin near my house in a rural area that the council has obviously forgotten about. It's been full for weeks!

You should see the amount of litter scattered around

Oh wait, it's absolutely none, because we're not fucking selfish savages

No fucking excuses for littering, ever. That's a societal problem, not a bin problem

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Eh, It's a bit of both. No amount of societal pressure will solve a complete absence of waste disposal infrastructure. It's a matter of making sure the sense of shame and/or duty is greater than whatever distance there inevitably is to a working bin.

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[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe we should reduce the amount of shit we have to throw away.

But also maybe pay the garbage men fairly, and tell the business or municipality that the garbage collection is insufficient for their needs.

[-] lonerangers1@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

reduce, reuse, recycle.

That shit is in order of most impactful.

I buy as much as I can second hand. Doing so, I am not bombarded with trash. No boxes, no bags, no plastic wrap.

We should 100% just not be producing all this trash. Coffee at home has zero waste, no plastic cup, no receipt, no carrier, no lid,...... do that shit everyday x millions of people. smh

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[-] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 weeks ago

Perhaps one should ask why there is so much trash to be thrown away in the first place.

Bins wouldn't always be full if there was simply less trash to put in them.

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

I worked for a park for a summer and it was an eye opener I'll tell you that much. They had someone (me!) basically just emptying trash cans all damn day and it wasn't enough! They filled up constantly.

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

Meanwhile in Japan public trash cans are extremely rare and people are expected to bring their trash home and throw it away there. And they do. We are just a spoiled society.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago

In the US we teach kids that trash men are suckers and idiots that didn't work hard enough in school! Also, that trash is an externality: Someone else's problem.

"We pay taxes for people to clean that up! Why should I spend my valuable time doing someone else's job‽"

It's an awful culture.

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[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, I work at a job where I need to empty trash cans and I can honestly say I don't get paid enough to haul y'alls shit off to the dumpster. Y'all put dumb shit in there that you shouldn't be putting in there. It's at the point where I take my trash home with me.

[-] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

I worked at dunkin while I was in college and it didn't matter how often you took the trash out during the summertime, it was constantly overflowing from people cleaning out their cars into it.

Not even kidding, one day I was on break outside and watched someone fill the freshly emptied can 3/4 full with all their fast food trash. As soon as the trashcan is empty people take the opportunity to clean out their cars. It's fucking weird.

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 3 weeks ago

You should be more angry at the throwaway society we've become to create so much trash, rather than rant at the person who might be the sole employee until someone else comes in to do the regular morning cleanup duties.

So you think some full trash cans cause people to head out to the interstate and only then throw shit out their window? Guess they're making a statement or something...

[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago

That’s no excuse for littering - but it is super annoying.

There’s a dunks near me that moved its trash out of the drive in line WAAAAAAY over to the other side of the parking lot. Intentionally, so that I don’t bother them by throwing away, you know, the bag and napkins they give you.

That was the straw that broke the camels back - I just make my coffee now in the morning. It’s 1/100th the price and aggravation.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe you should try to do the job of the trash collectors for a week and see if it's really honest to say "Its unbelievable people go to work and choose not to do their job anymore".

Most jobs have lunatics in leadership positions who think people can survive on exposure or gift cards or a minimum wage that cannot afford 3 healthy meals a day.

"Unskilled Labour" is a lie told by business people to swindle money from hardworking people. Most of the rich people on the planet are scoundrels.

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

When the convenience store only has one employee, even often during peak times, that has to run the register, stock shelves, clean, and take out the trash, in that priority order, is it any wonder that the lower priority tasks just don't get done at all?

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

Keep it in your pocket. Not really hard tbh.
Of course other humans are trashy :/

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

If you treat people like trash, don't be surprised if they turn out to be garbage.

[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

It's infuriating that we have so much trash that needs throwing away. Most of those cans were probably empty in the morning.

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[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

This just seems like a lot of words for the same ol' no one wants to work anymore bullshit

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

This likely isn't a matter of people "not doing their job". Did you communicate that there was a problem with those trash cans being full? Likely, no one else did, either. Since everyone seems to expect everyone else to complain?

A similar thought process, even though I agree with your original sentiment that we need to have trash cans available: If you would have "done your job" and communicated, there may have been 4 more trash cans available.

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[-] nimble 8 points 3 weeks ago

"I litter because the trash can was full"

And you're trying to think about perceived societal problems. How about introspection?

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