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[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 81 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i don't hate windows because of design inconsistencies and imagined security differences. i hate windows because it shoves ads in my face and spies on me, and every time i dig through the registry to get it to not do that, it gets undone with the next system update.

i use linux because it doesn't make me do that in order to have a system i consider usable.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 19 points 2 months ago

Also the pulling-teeth-process of updating Windows. How does a commercial OS shit the bed on that so hard?

[-] fearpanic@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

What's the problem with the updates? I don't have any problems with OS-Updates on W11 and also have no commercials or Copilot or shit like this. And no update ever tried to bring me those things. EU btw

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

My last experience with Windows was with Windows 10, but updates were always taking an extremely long time both to download (my internet is a bit slow, Linux updates have way smaller download sizes) and to install, and update installation often failed.

[-] fearpanic@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Ah okay, we had 50k DSL for the longest time now, and updates never were really a problem. Yes, they download in the background but never really influenced my internet usage. And updates never really broke anything for me. But I also never update ASAP. But everyone's mileage may vary. I mainly use my PC for entertainment purposes and picture editing. No problems there except with Adobe, because it's a shit show of a program suite, haha

[-] colderr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I feel like it's a thing in the EU, where we don't have ads or shit like that in Windows. Been using Windows 11 for like a month now and haven't seen a single ad.

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[-] EatMyPixelDust 3 points 2 months ago

I am not a fan of the design inconsistencies or the apparent desire within Microsoft to change the entire GUI style every 5 minutes, but the way Windows has turned into bloated AF adware/spyware has been the main force behind me moving to Linux. I would have been happy with Windows XP forever if they just kept updating DirectX etc.

My other major annoyance is how Windows Update now forces itself on you, forces a reboot, then takes forever, and of course will randomly fail to apply the updates. Whereas with Linux, the updates just.... work. And they don't take half an hour to do nothing.

[-] msmc101 60 points 2 months ago

yeah that's what people complain about on windows sure

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 53 points 2 months ago

I don't think people's #1 problem with Windows is that the icons are inconsistent sometimes.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure keep telling yourself that you enjoy all the ads, malware, garbage UI and UX, bloated size, cost, etc

Nobody has fun using windows, they just tolerate it.

[-] arisunz 2 points 2 months ago

i'm with you on everything else, but i don't know if linux desktop as a whole is a shining example of good UX/UI, oof...

[-] 737 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

whats "linux desktop"?

plasma certainly has better ux/ui than windows
gnome definitely does too
cinnamon may be debatable
tiling window managers are in my view unrivaled in ux compared to anything else
gtk3 and qt also offer extensive theming on posix compliant systems
proper terminal centric design is also very important to me, making windows as a whole an unbearable user experience

[-] 737 4 points 2 months ago

i mean vanilla gnome 47 and plasma 6.1, not whatever ubuntu does

[-] arisunz 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

dude i use i3 and arch as a daily driver. for work too. and i LOVE it even if it can get a little janky.

but you cannot with a straight face tell me a user new to linux will find it comfortable to use. let alone people used to other tools like graphic designers (try telling THEM to switch to gimp and inkscape, or even worse to try to use the adobe suite with wine, and see the response you get)

we linux weenies can make our desktop and tools comfortable for us. the average person will ask you where chrome is and give up after you try explaining to them what a flatpak is for the third time.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah your expererience can vary a lot depending on what you use or start out with as a new user.

[-] arisunz 39 points 2 months ago

Nice bait and all but this is literally the other way around.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No. Windows has these "issues" if you use a diverse-enough set of apps, and there are quite-a-few things it won't let you tweak without paid or uNtRuSteD apps that Linux will. The difference is that Linux includes more diverse apps by default, and doesn't hide them away very well.

Personally, I love a bit of inconsistency, and Windows resides on my laptop because I'm more concerned with getting Linux onto my phone these days.

[-] arisunz 9 points 2 months ago

I’m more concerned with getting Linux onto my phone these days.

Ah, hello fellow masochist

jk im happy chrooting into a distro via termux, i dont have the money for an actual phone i can get linux into :<

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 points 2 months ago

I just spent $200 on eBay for a OnePlus 6T (which is the newest phone supported by postmarketOS). First impressions: it is buggy as all hell and running what is essentially a desktop Linux OS on a 5 inch touchscreen does not work as well as I had hoped it would, but it is open source and it does kind of work, and I'm hoping with a lot more experimentation I can get it to kind of work slightly better

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 38 points 2 months ago

Wow, I'm having so much fun staring at the start menu.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Oh man I love playing Start Menu. One of those games that just doesn't work on Linux.

[-] SmoochyPit@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago

inconsistency with icons and design in some areas

Sounds like a straw man argument. What Linux user would cite that as a complaint against Windows?

(I use arch btw)

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

A noob, or anyone who spends too much time on /UnixDesktops without realizing that /rainmeter is also a thing.

Just answering your question. Debian here

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Linux folks can get annoying sometimes, but Windows has become absolutely painful to use recently. It's adware is absolutely disgusting, in line with everything else in corporate society. Every time I use my computer, I'm reminded that I live in a dystopia. When I get a new desktop, it sure as shit won't run Windows.

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 23 points 2 months ago

I also enjoy fucking around with a game controller while staring at the Windows Start Menu with no video game open.

[-] Walk_blesseD 19 points 2 months ago

Cope.

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[-] kittykittycatboys 14 points 2 months ago

straw pengiun......

also i wan that as a plushie now meow >w<

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 14 points 2 months ago

OP successfully triggered people, this isn't even offensive (I use opensuse btw)

[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

You know what, I hope they do have fun.

(i use mint btw)

[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Someone loves sucking on micro soft dicks (joking, wanted to make the micro soft joke)

[-] abbiistabbii 12 points 2 months ago

Arch users

As a Linux user, can I just say, fuck Arch users. Especially Arch users who tell beginners to use Arch.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago

What would we do without the arch wiki?

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[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago

No need to push beginners towards arch, they'll become curious and check it out just for the meme anyways

On an unrelated note, have you heard the good news about our Lord and Savior, NixOS?

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As an arch user, if you tell someone who's never used Linux before to use Arch, I'm taking away your using-Linux privileges. Possibly also your having-kneecaps privileges.

[-] Borger 12 points 2 months ago

I love the concept of a bunch of people holding game controllers and staring at the start menu.

[-] bunnyBoy@pawb.social 12 points 2 months ago

Saying something that could be construed as positive towards windows on lemmy???

[-] jia_tan 10 points 2 months ago

[-] Smorty 4 points 2 months ago

No way this is real

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[-] jia_tan 9 points 2 months ago

All I see is 4 Linux users whose eggs are about to crack.

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

This is so true! I would say, especially on Lemmy, but I'm so late plenty of users already made that point for me. lol

That said, I'm just waiting for Microsoft to implement that copilot crap to finally maybe actually try to transition to linux - same reason I finally left reddit (I was basically forced off)

[-] megopie 7 points 2 months ago

Yah, I got tired of reconfiguring my windows every-time it updated.

The little annoyances built up to a point where the 1 hour of migrating stuff over and booting up a new OS was worth it.

[-] Smorty 8 points 2 months ago

Honest question to y'all windows users:
Do you have fun with your operating system?

[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes because I get to play games without having to do the equivalent of installing five different Windows library emulation tools and hours configuring/troubleshooting several scripts just to launch a simple ASCII roguelike game or an Unreal Engine game with shitty DRM.

[-] pipe01@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

I literally just press play on steam

[-] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 7 points 2 months ago

I'm in this picture and I don't like it

[-] neox_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Well, the real problem is that Windows enjails people while GNU/Linux empowers by giving freedom

[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

linux "secure" lol

[-] jia_tan 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s open source, which in this case means a lot of people are working on it, and it is used on internet-facing computers, which means it can’t hide behind a residential firewall so has to be secure against every attack imaginable.

So yeah, the fact that is called merely “secure” is indeed lol, it should have been called “ultra mega super max secure”.

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