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[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago

I agree.

Friendly reminder: deadnaming Twitter is not transphobic.

[-] puppycat 21 points 11 months ago

what??? that's like deadnaming elons child!! oh wait, he does that.

[-] mke@programming.dev 73 points 11 months ago

I feel like most people are wildly inconsistent on this. Fat shaming? Small dick energy? How about mental illness? Baldness for some reason? Disabilities? Oh, we could probably go on about those. Some people seemingly decide a line is too simple and draw a complex sine function instead.

My rule is to try to be decent. Sometimes, I even succeed. But I don't think I'm very good at it, and neither are most of you. Bunch of hypocrites, we are.

[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

I've always liked "Just don't punch down." But you're right, we're all hypocritical in some form or another.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

The issue is that even when your target is "up", using common characteristics as insults means lots of people below that are going to catch strays, as it were.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

The problem here is lots of people have different definitions of who is up or down.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 8 points 11 months ago

I'm not really sure when it happened, but I'd say people were generally pretty successful at destroying the old social norms. There's a lot of terrible slurs that are no longer socially acceptable to say today, there was a lot of power that white men had in conversations that was stripped from them, it was good to get rid of.

The problem is that we didn't really replace it with anything. There was no great basic decency movement, nothing new about treating people with respect. If anything, it seems like we've embraced being more toxic than ever, and have decided to invent new ways to insult and belittle each other.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago

But what if it's in the positive? Damn girl I like your fat ass. But I can see it being used negatively.

I like Big Dick Energy though. Can we keep that?

[-] mke@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago

I think you answered your own question? It depends on meaning and context, not just words themselves. And while positive messages intersect the overarching topic, they're different enough that we can't just bundle them together and treat them in the same fashion.

I like Big Dick Energy though. Can we keep that?

Can't handle the magnitude of that question on my own, I'm afraid.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Nope. Far too misogynistic and aggressive. It implies there are small dicks and it even completely ignores people born without dicks or had them removed.

The point is, there is no such thing as perfection. We all follow the "Open mouth and insert foot" rule on occasion. But we can try to do our best knowing we will often fail. And when others fail us in return, we must learn to gently correct and forgive.

[-] str82L@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

But pointing out hypocrisy is AOK

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

If you want to insult someone, don't say things you find offensive. Say things they find offensive.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 22 points 11 months ago

Like when we called Conservatives weird and they had a literal meltdown?

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

yeah and when that was clearly working the Harris campaign just dropped it in favor of stupid shit like bragging about republicans endorsing her.

[-] higgsboson@dubvee.org 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They had such a "literal meltdown" they took over all three branches of government.

Yeah, you really got under their skin.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago

How the country votes has nothing to do with actual conservatives melting down

[-] higgsboson@dubvee.org 2 points 11 months ago

Eh. He looks pretty happy to me, albeit a bit unhinged. My point was more that (moral high-ground not withstanding) the MAGAts appear to have gotten the last laugh this cycle, which his expression seemingly reflects.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I remember when I was a teen talking online with someone from Britain. I don’t remember why, but at one point, he called me a “wanker.”

I thought it was hilarious. He thought he was insulting me, but since I’d never seen nor heard that word used in real life before, it had no emotional meaning to me. Instead, I was tickled by how silly (and patently British) the word sounded.

[-] Cargon@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

I am super racist against Republicans.

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 17 points 11 months ago

I used to have a mate called Josh who'd always call things gay if he didn't like him, and I asked him to stop. I said, imagine if I called stuff I don't like "joshy" or something. Anyway he stopped talking to me after that. It was a bit more heated than I've made it sound but you get the point.

[-] bilb@lem.monster 10 points 11 months ago

I said that on here and was heavily downvoted. Granted, I was inebriated so a lot of anger came across (so I've since deleted it) so maybe it was that.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Ya just imagine the same thing but with racism

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is one of many reasons why I never liked the media going "I'm implying Putin and Trump are gay and wanna do it, that's the joke!"

God, the media sucked at making fun of Trump.

Remember how starting in 2016 EVERY show had to have a character who was "Basically Trump", and the plot was "Trump is bad." And the ONLY thing to do it competently was The Boys; Because it showcased Trump/Homelander as an actual threat and character study into "What if someone has no brains, no skills, all the power, the humility of Julius Caeser and the tolerance of Henry the VIII. And no one in charge is going to do anything about it. Why? Corporate and political entities fully realize he's a ticking time bomb they can barely control, but don't care about that little detail because he's useful to their agenda!"

instead of "Remember when Trump said dumb thing he actually said in real life? Laugh! Trump's an idiot and a loser, but we're also really afraid of him!" Which is not only not funny, but runs close to Fox News' "Weak Willed Tyrant Fallacy"

It's like, I get it, I hate Trump to, but for the love of God, change the fucking channel. I enjoy fiction to escape reality.

I'm really hoping we don't get a second wave of that. Because, holy shit, I understand that "orange man bad", please tell me what the fuck we're going to do about it besides try to make a buck off of it.

[-] formergijoe@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Republicans to Trump acting like he's sucking dick: "see how these f*ggots are the problem with America?"

Democrats to Trump acting like he's sucking dick: " you better not make fun of Trump for sucking dick."

The problem is, him acting like he's sucking dick IS the joke to his supporters. It's like the ableist joke he pulled during 2016, and the rapist "locker room talk" he did during the access Hollywood tape.

You're not being a knight in armor by saying "pointing out Donald Trump's homophobic acts is wrong," you're normalizing his homophobia.

Donald Trump should be allowed to fantasize about Arnold Palmer's dick, and Tucker Carlson should be able to fantasize about some man coming into his house and saying "Daddy's home, and you've been a bad girl." They should not be allowed to judge other people who think the same way.

Everything a Republican is against is an admission of what they are for.

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 7 points 11 months ago
[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 8 points 11 months ago

A meme is a self replicating unit of cultural information. This is a meme

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 7 points 11 months ago

Internet memes and cultural memes are not the same thing. This isn't even a cultural meme - it's a screenshot of political opinion. Internet memes are pictures that are funny, ironic or relatable.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 11 months ago

Yes they are the same thing.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 6 points 11 months ago

Using someones homophobia to mock them is highly ok.

Don't call them a little faggot tho. That ain't cool.

I guess this is what is implied, but this is what I read at first.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 11 months ago

If everyone you meet is an asshole ...

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

...You might just be a colorectal surgeon.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

...you might be a redneck?

[-] formergijoe@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Counter point: I think the world would be a better place if Tucker Carlson would be able to admit to himself that he wants some dude he calls "daddy" dressed as the green m&m would spank Tucker and call him "a bad girl." Also, the world would be a better place if Donald Trump could admit he wants to suck Arnold Palmer's apparently massive dong.

My problem isn't homophobia and transphobia, my problem is these homophobic and transphobic pricks performing these homophillic and transphillicic acts and getting away with "Satan made me do it."

If these homophobes and transphobes do something that would trigger homophobes and transphobes, they should trigger homophobes and transphobes.

Does your Lord and and Savior want to suck dick? What's wrong with that? Is it that your Lord and Savior wants to suck dick, or that the person who wants to suck dick is Your Lord and Savior?

[-] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

I no longer say things like “Miss Lindsey Graham can take it in the ass as often as she likes and she puts the ‘smart’ in ᴅᴜᴍ sᴘɪʀᴏ sᴘᴇʀᴏ”, because I’m a good person.

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