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[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 206 points 7 months ago

Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer Kent Walker, says the DOJ is pushing “a radical interventionist agenda that would harm Americans and America’s global technology leadership.”

I'm honestly curious how this would "harm Americans".

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 101 points 7 months ago

Google pretending they have any other nationality other then “the global internet” is cute in a disgusting way.

[-] ladicius@lemmy.world 86 points 7 months ago

That statement is technically true.

The billionaire owners are Americans.

[-] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Everyone really does need to have that at the forefront of their mind. When the C-suit, wall street, and politicians talk about "Americans" they aren't talking about us schlubs.

[-] Homescool@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

The corporations are people too!

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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Alphabet’s Chief Legal Officer sounds like Donald Trump

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

I fear this is exactly who they're courting.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 months ago

It harms wealthy asshole Americans at Google.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 7 months ago

The same ruling would ban Google from paying other browsers to make Google the default search engine.
This would kill Firefox and make Chromium the only browser engine that's left.

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[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 126 points 7 months ago

This is the last antitrust win we'll get for years, isn't it?

I know Trump doesn't like Big Tech, but I doubt his admin will punish them meaningfully, but just rail about censorship.

[-] babybus@sh.itjust.works 76 points 7 months ago

This isn't a win I think. They are yet to meet in the court with Google.

The DOJ will file a revised version of its proposals in early March, before the government and Google return to the DC District Court in April for a two-week remedies trial.

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[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 109 points 7 months ago

Ehh just fight it for a month pay king trump some money and bam their golden.

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago

This is exactly what will happen. Same thing with Albertsons and Kroger too.

[-] fern@lemmy.autism.place 14 points 7 months ago

Okay but consider them taking this moment to let Elon buy it and using it to control information on the clients end 💀

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[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago

If they're allowed to choose who they sell it to this won't change anything

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 53 points 7 months ago

I think they should sell it to me.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 29 points 7 months ago
[-] otter@lemmy.ca 19 points 7 months ago

Too much for me, I'm out 🏳️

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[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 7 months ago

Sell it to Mozilla so they can make it uninstall itself and install Firefox instead in the next update

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[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Just...please for the love of whatever diety do Microsoft. Fucking sick of their shit recently with One Drive.

[-] xylogx@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Do you have a few minutes to learn about our lord and savior Linux?

[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Man the Linux propaganda is STRONG on Lemmy. I'll say what I've said before: I use my computer for gaming, web browsing, and managing a media server for my family that hosts pictures and other things. If those 3 things can be done easily without issue on a Linux distro without having to fuck around with configs every time I want to do something, I'm all in. By what I've heard though it's just not there yet. I am super happy Steam decided to go Linux for their Steamdeck though as I've heard thats helped make monumental strides the right direction. Trust me, I want to. Large part of it is I worked tech support for over a decade and having to troubleshoot my own shit is like the furthest thing I want to deal with haha

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[-] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 40 points 7 months ago

Don't fucking let Musk buy it though

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago

What company could actually afford to buy it other than Google, Meta, or Amazon? Unless they are forced to sell it at a loss, which is fine with me.

[-] Radiantprime@feddit.uk 9 points 7 months ago
[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

With all due respect for Valve, they don't need this. They exist in their niche, and they're exceptionally good at doing their work

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago

They should force it to become a worker cooperative. It's the only solution that doesn't allow for corruption

[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

brOURser comrade.

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[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

People wondering what Chrome has to do with a search monopoly:

The obvious benefit is that they can default the user's search provider to Google.

But the more nefarious benefit is that, by controlling both the client and server, they can unilaterally decide the future of web standards. They don't have to advocate for proposals, gain consensus, and limit themselves to well-supported standards the way other companies do. They can just do it, gain the first-mover advantage, and force others to follow suit.

If they don't like HTTP/2, they can invent their own protocol and implement it for their search servers and Chrome. Suddenly, using Chrome with Google Search is way faster than using Chrome with Bing or using Firefox with Google Search. Even if Microsoft and Mozilla don't like the protocol, they now have to adopt it or fall behind.

This has happened. QUIC was deployed in 2012. Firefox gained support in 2021.

They're doing the same thing with Privacy Sandbox, and you can also look at browser feature compatibility tables to see how eager Google is to force their own interpretation of every not-yet-finalized web standard as the canonical interpretation.

Edit: Also, JPEG XL vs. WebP.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

sell it to Microsoft so they can finally have a web browser that people use

[-] Liz@midwest.social 25 points 7 months ago

Yes, the anti-trust lawsuit should culminate in one part of a tech giant being sold to another tech giant.

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[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago

There's literally so much else they should do, google docs, sheets, drive, phones, maps, earth, calendar, play store, translate, etc.
Good work, continue please.

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

What is the issue with docs, sheets, drive, phones, calendar, play store?

There seems to be plenty of options in all of these spaces. Play store isn't even on a lot of android devices.

[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Correct. My example for another necessary intervention would be YouTube. That's a space in which Google does have a monopoly.

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[-] ROAGO@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Why is everyone acting like this is a thing that will happen? All they have to do is wait roughly 90 days and it'll all go away.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 7 months ago

Sell it to me, I'll buy it for one dollar.

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[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago
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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago

Hot take: they sell Chrome but keep Chromium.

[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 18 points 7 months ago

Seeing how tech illiterate some of these people are, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what ends up happening

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[-] xylogx@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Who would buy this and how would they monetize it? In browser ads? A freemium paid model to remove the ads?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago

I'll bid $3.50 just to GPL it.

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[-] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 11 points 7 months ago

Is the DOJ the only working system in the US now?

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 39 points 7 months ago

Obviously not. Trump is still free.

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