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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 83 points 1 month ago

I agree. Buy a new router that isn't Dlink.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah after gettin screwed by the DLink you might as well use the TP-Link

[-] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago

The DSR-150 is still being sold on Amazon under the D-Link store. Why the hell would you end of life something you still sell.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 1 month ago

Don't want to get lumbered with a bunch of old stock now, do you?

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Technically most if not all Amazon sellers are third party who sell to the warehouse and then it sits there until its listing contract expires.

Thats why Rode Microphone refuses to sell on Amazon.

[-] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Then recall all the end of life stock.

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago

Okay so the 2015 EOL ones, yeah I can understand telling the customer to update their shit. They shouldn't have to support nearly 10 year out of date stuff.

May 2024 EOL ones? Bruh. C'mon now.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

I would love to know when they stopped selling it compared to the EOL. EOL should be at least 5 years past the last time the models were shipped out, maybe more. So if May 2024 was EOL I sure hope they weren't selling them after 2018.

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[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 month ago

There right you and i should just buy a new one

Of a diffrent brand

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Yup, my Mikrotik router is doing great years after I bought it, and I expect to keep getting updates into the future. I used to use a LinkSys router w/ DD-WRT and later OpenWRT, and I think those are still supported to this day.

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[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 54 points 1 month ago

Be nice if companies had to open source firmware they are going to EoL.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Not going to hold my breath that anything like this will happen in the current political climate, but yeah, that should be mandatory. Even ignoring the exploitive nature towards their customers, it creates a ton of unnecessary waste.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Exactly. As a consumer, when I buy a product, I'm not just buying the state of things at the time, I'm buying with an expectation of ongoing support. If they choose to not support it themselves, I should be able to support it myself.

In the old days, hardware came with schematics, so when the manufacturer warranty ended, customers could repair things themselves. That should extend to software as well, since software is just as much a part of the functioning of a device as capacitors and whatnot.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Welp never buying anything D-Link ever again

Because they won't support routers that were EOL a decade ago?

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 65 points 1 month ago

Companies should be forced to release all source code for products that are "EOL". I will never change my mind on this.

[-] sfxrlz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Especially for stuff like medical implants

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

'Sorry, your eyes are no longer supported'

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[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 43 points 1 month ago

May 1st 2024 was a decade ago? (The article has a list and only two are old as you mention, though not quite a decade yet)

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Because that bug was so egregious, it demonstrates a rare level of incompetence.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 19 points 1 month ago

that bug was so egregious, it demonstrates a rare level of incompetence

I wish so much this was true, but it super isn't. Some of the recent Cisco security flaws are just so brain-dead stupid you wonder if they have any internal quality control at all... and, well, there was the Crowdstrike thing...

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Idk, this was kind of a rare combination of "write secure function; proceed to ignore secure function and rawdog strings instead" + "it can be exploited by entering a string with a semicolon". Neither of those are anything near as egregious as a use after free or buffer overflow. I get programming is hard but like, yikes. It should have been caught on both ends

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[-] Corr@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Most reached EOL in may of this year.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

Long ago, D-Link was good but then they sold the company. Just like Alienware, Farbreware, Oaklies, etc.

[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Oakley, like the sunglasses company? What happened to them?

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Luxottica. I've visited their HQ in soCal, people aren't having fun and coming up with wacky designs anymore.

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[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Our shit sucks. Buy more lol

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 month ago

there should be list of companies that should be avoided and why, its impossible to keep track of everything like this

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

An idea for an app I came up with for a class once was one that let you scan a barcode of a product in like Walmart and get what parent company owns it, like how Nestle doesn't like to put their name on companies they bought (or not in big text anyways).
So if you want to avoid Coca Cola you could scan it and see who it's owned by and if that company matches one of the ones you have blacklisted

Fun fact, 'peace tea' is owned by coca cola

[-] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 month ago

There's an app called 'buycott' that does exactly that!

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[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean this is pretty standard in all industries regardless of whether it's a software flaw or a physical flaw in any other kind of product. What's the likelihood of a vacuum manufacturer replacing a part in a 15 year old product that had a 1 year warrantee even if it's a safety issue? Sure the delivery and installation is cheaper with software, but the engineering and development isn't, especially if the environment for building it has to be recreated.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 month ago

I work for a manufacturer with part catalogues going back to 1921, and while the telegraph codes no longer work, you could absolutely still order up a given part, or request from us the engineering diagram for it to aid in fabricating a replacement. You can also request service manuals, wiring diagrams, etc. Don't all half-decent manufacturers do this?

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 14 points 1 month ago

Yes they do, but half decent manufacturers are extremely rare.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Now I wish you'd tell us what the company is so if I ever need anything in that industry, I'd know where to buy from.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

What you're saying is perfectly reasonable, but also doesn't apply here because they're still selling this router new on the D-link Amazon store.

If you're going to stop supporting a product, you should also stop selling it.

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

As far as I can tell, those aren't from authorized resellers or even from Amazon itself which they might have some ability to stop selling them. These are just people who are using amazon marketplace to sell off old stock like any other product. D-link hasn't sold them for a while. But I could be wrong, I just haven't seen any evidence that they are selling them. If Bissel had a vacuum that had a faulty gear that would break after a few years of use and they stopped making them, that wouldn't stop someone from buying them up from Walmart or other store warehouses that no longer sold them and listing them for sale on Amazon or Walmart or whatever marketplace. That's very common.

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[-] wholookshere 12 points 1 month ago

This is why a number of countries have laws saying spare parts must be made available for a number of years past being sold. Well beyond what the warranty is.

How is this significantly different?

[-] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

I'd also settle for releasing 3D models of out-of-production parts so they can be 3D-printed by enthusiasts.

Story time: in my second-gen Mazda Miata, I closed the centre console lid on a piece of cardstock by accident and it snapped the plastic piece that latches the lid shut. The part previously sold for ~$10 but they stopped producing it as a standalone part at some point and the only way to acquire it was to buy the $100 centre console lid assembly.

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[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

but does it run openwrt?

e: no it doesn't, only one model had half-baked image made and available for download from some sketchy forum post made in 2014

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 11 points 1 month ago

I moved to an OPNsense router a couple of years ago and I’ve never looked back. Hell is shitty consumer routers.

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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
[-] Deebster@infosec.pub 14 points 1 month ago

I watched and enjoyed that one yesterday, and he's bang on the money. People here are saying "well it's EoL" but that means it's got all the way through development and its full lifetime with such a prominent set of bugs.

I don't think I'll be buying D-Link if that's what supported means.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Why do they say they’re prohibited to provide support? That a bad translation?

[-] andyortlieb@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Commodity hardware & open source software for the win.

When my Western Digital NAS was never going to get critical security patches, I was so freaking glad to find out that they just used software raid... I threw the HDDs in a Debian server and never looked back.

It's certainly nice to have things that are turn-key, but if you can find your way around any OS, just avoid proprietary everything.

[-] DuckWrangler9000@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

A bunch of juvenile D-Linkuents. Get it? D-Link? Nevermind....

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

a new non dlink router. Since the should be named f-link for a number of reasons.

[-] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Same website (granted, different author, but), same inflammatory language, same vendor, referencing previous erroneous article...I'm not even gonna read this one. Just going to copy/paste my previous response from the previous post:

At a certain point it's the consumer's (and blog writer's) fault, and that's after EoL. Not patching a supported one and just getting rid of support, saying buy a newer one? Yeah, that's bad.

Continuing to not support an EoL model that you already don't support due to EoL (or even dropping support for an EoL model that no one expected you to support in the first place due to EoL)? Non-issue.

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