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[-] Humana@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In my country you can submit a photo of this to the local police with a statement swearing it's a true photo, then your name and tax ID number. Then in 6-9 months the vehicle owner will receive a citation and fee in the mail.

It's fun because you have a serial offender who thinks they are getting away with it like this, but in 6-9 months they will get the first few and correct their behavior but continue to receive the citations. Then they will finally look at the dates of the offense on the citation and realize they have thousands of euros in fees still coming for months of shitty behavior.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Oh, man. We want immediate justice so often, but I almost think the delay is the best part of that.

Still means 6 months of cyclist frustration though…

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

That's the dream. Where do you live?

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, would be better if you could submit it anonymously.

we need an (optional) open source app for that where you just open the app and take a picture (with license plate visible) and click "submit". It submits the time, location, and photo. If it takes more than 30 seconds to report this, they failed.

[-] Humana@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

People here have developed an app that makes it that easy to submit (the app essentially composes the email for you). However, without your full name and tax ID number nothing will happen from the police. As has been pointed out, the system is open to abuse if it became anonymous.

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[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 month ago

I have to deal with similar issues in my neighbourhood; any service vehicle will have to block the bike lane because that houses driveway is already full of vehicle.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago

Service vehicle never "have" to block the bike lane. They could simply block the general purpose lane instead.

In other words, they are making a deliberate choice to fuck cyclists' safety in order to prioritize convenience for car drivers.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 month ago

Well...yes, in most areas that inconveniences 3 people vs 300. Bicyclists, despite their entire personality being geared around it, are not by default better or more valuable than people driving cars.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What cyclists are more of, compared to people driving cars, is vulnerable, which means they're more important to protect -- by not blocking bike lanes and forcing them to mix with car traffic, for example!

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[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago

If cycling wasn't so dangerous and given lower priority there would be many more cyclists and fewer cars. We see this wherever town planners make this change.

Less car traffic in general is better for everyone, even the drivers. It doesn't matter if you think that cyclists are annoying or holier than thou. It doesn't matter what kind of people they are at all. They could all be assholes, that doesn't change the fact that cars are bad actually.

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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago

Curious how it never occurs to them to block the driving lane, or you know, park around the corner.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago

Amazon drivers aren’t Amazon employees, and aren’t paid well enough or treated well enough to care. Don’t be angry at the drivers, be angry at Amazon.

[-] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Fuck that. This isn’t some poor customer service shit. This is being an inconsiderate asshole on public property. Yes they are treated poorly but that’s not an excuse for every behavior.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

I have enough anger for both.

[-] Catoblepas 10 points 1 month ago

Seconding this. Some of these comments are an unpleasant reminder of why the stereotype of cyclists as upper class and entitled exists.

Some blame also lies on the local government for not adding bollards or other structures to separate the bike lane from traffic. Seeing all these issues and deciding someone with shit pay and zero job security is worth getting mad at just doesn’t make sense. Go take that energy somewhere it can do something.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 month ago

By your logic the right answer is to be mad at every prime customer.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago
[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 20 points 1 month ago

We have a suckhead that parks his delivery van on the middle of a cross over (we call it a zebra pad) everytime to deliver goods to our local flower shop. So I tell him he is unlawfully parked, he says I shouldn't worry, it is just for a minute. I tell him it takes only a second for a pedestrian to get hurt. He didn’t care the slightest bit.

[-] Krzd@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

In Germany, parents cannot be held liable if their child under 12 (or 14?) damages illegally parked cars with their bike.... Just a random fact of the day, nothing to do with your comment.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 14 points 1 month ago

Not the first time, not the last. Amazon delivery drivers are terrible in every area. Urban or rural they will find a way to block traffic, especially when there is a nearby way to not do so.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I suspect it's a selection effect. Amazon is a pain in the arse to work for. Decent drivers are in demand. This makes it easy for good drivers to jump ship to other companies. This leaves the inexperienced or just stupid drivers left to deal with the BS.

If you've not driven a van before, they are intimidating to maneuver, at first. It's takes time and skill to spin them on a dime, and slot them in, with awareness of how much space you are leaving. Novice drivers simply lack that skill.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 month ago

I've seen them deliberately park at a tee intersection to block all three legs rather than any one of them. That's less incompetence and more not giving a shit about other people. Otoh this is in California so that's kinda just how people act.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Being an incompetent and being an arsehole are not mutually exclusive things.

[-] VeganCheesecake 12 points 1 month ago

Delivery trucks, full stop, around here. Though some stop on the street instead, which I prefer, but car drivers usually don't.

In the end, I find it hard to be angry at overworked, underpaid people, who have to work around infrastructure that clearly hasn't been planned with their job in mind.

At least UPS is switching to large bike-like vehicles around here. Hope that trend continues.

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[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't they have traffic wardens in Cambridge? They'd be fined and possibly towed as well here

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

You'd think, but there are three levels of responsibility: the city council, the county council, and the local police. Calling any one of them to complain and demand enforcement results in them redirecting you to one of the others.

Basically, unless you're blocking car traffic, no one with power cares.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Just gotta wait for that cyclist that turns into the road because a car was blocking him. Then it'll be all "oh no how could this ever happen?"

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

But why weren't they wearing their helmet/high-vis/body armour???

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

Honestly they should've worn their metal exoskeleton with four wheels

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago

..and gets sucked under a lorry

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

The police very, very rarely do anything about this kind of thing here. It’s not just Amazon; even everyday random people just stop in the middle of the street to pick people up or drop people off.

The worst offender is Uber Eats, which regularly completely blocks up roads near restaurants.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Plus the wardens have to watch the vehicle for 10 minutes before issuing a ticket. The driver would have completed the delivery and gone within that 10 minutes.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago

Why would you permit someone to park illegally for 10 minutes?!?

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[-] cynar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

That can be both incompetent and arseholes. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Uber Eats does this all day every day.

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