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Amazon delivery vans were parked in bike lanes all over Cambridge today. (mastodon.social)
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[-] Humana@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

In my country you can submit a photo of this to the local police with a statement swearing it's a true photo, then your name and tax ID number. Then in 6-9 months the vehicle owner will receive a citation and fee in the mail.

It's fun because you have a serial offender who thinks they are getting away with it like this, but in 6-9 months they will get the first few and correct their behavior but continue to receive the citations. Then they will finally look at the dates of the offense on the citation and realize they have thousands of euros in fees still coming for months of shitty behavior.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Oh, man. We want immediate justice so often, but I almost think the delay is the best part of that.

Still means 6 months of cyclist frustration though…

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago

That's the dream. Where do you live?

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well, would be better if you could submit it anonymously.

we need an (optional) open source app for that where you just open the app and take a picture (with license plate visible) and click "submit". It submits the time, location, and photo. If it takes more than 30 seconds to report this, they failed.

[-] Humana@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

People here have developed an app that makes it that easy to submit (the app essentially composes the email for you). However, without your full name and tax ID number nothing will happen from the police. As has been pointed out, the system is open to abuse if it became anonymous.

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[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 20 points 6 days ago

We have a suckhead that parks his delivery van on the middle of a cross over (we call it a zebra pad) everytime to deliver goods to our local flower shop. So I tell him he is unlawfully parked, he says I shouldn't worry, it is just for a minute. I tell him it takes only a second for a pedestrian to get hurt. He didn’t care the slightest bit.

[-] Krzd@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

In Germany, parents cannot be held liable if their child under 12 (or 14?) damages illegally parked cars with their bike.... Just a random fact of the day, nothing to do with your comment.

[-] VeganCheesecake 12 points 6 days ago

Delivery trucks, full stop, around here. Though some stop on the street instead, which I prefer, but car drivers usually don't.

In the end, I find it hard to be angry at overworked, underpaid people, who have to work around infrastructure that clearly hasn't been planned with their job in mind.

At least UPS is switching to large bike-like vehicles around here. Hope that trend continues.

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[-] cynar@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

That can be both incompetent and arseholes. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Don't they have traffic wardens in Cambridge? They'd be fined and possibly towed as well here

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

You'd think, but there are three levels of responsibility: the city council, the county council, and the local police. Calling any one of them to complain and demand enforcement results in them redirecting you to one of the others.

Basically, unless you're blocking car traffic, no one with power cares.

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[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

The police very, very rarely do anything about this kind of thing here. It’s not just Amazon; even everyday random people just stop in the middle of the street to pick people up or drop people off.

The worst offender is Uber Eats, which regularly completely blocks up roads near restaurants.

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

As a person who does this job I have to say I have zero sympathy for the entitlement expressed in this thread and find no fault in any parking job these people use to save themselves the extra 50 steps x 200 places a day they have to deliver to. If you don't feel safe going around then you can fucking wait the literal minute it takes for them to walk back and forth.

You feel entitled to them literally wearing their bodies down to dust for your convenience because you think of them as lesser human beings to yourself and you need to do self crit immediately.

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Maybe you guys should unionise so you don't have such shit working conditions.

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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago

My first response to this was expletive-laden, but I think I might get through to you if I reign it in, so I'm trying to be polite here. Just understand that I am seething with rage while I type this.

Hey there friend. You need to learn to park or stop driving. Seriously, you're endangering lives for your convenience. You get the whole damned road while everyone else is allocated the slightest fraction to safeguard ourselves from drunks, assholes, and morons pushing two tonnes of steel and glass at 60mph while they stare at their phones and you think it's ok to push kids on bikes into that channel of death because you can't be bothered to look for a legit parking spot? I get that your employer is pressuring you for better times, but you're literally breaking the law and that law exists for a reason.

Every one of the 4 of the drivers I saw that day were parking on the cycle lane when they had multiple more reasonable options available to them:

  1. The driveways of those receiving the packages
  2. Around the corner in a safer area where parking spaces are allocated by the city for just this situation
  3. Blocking the road. I understand that this seems crazy to someone who spends so much time on the road, but blocking a car lane is an inconvenience. Blocking a cycle lane gets people killed.

What you're doing is lazy, selfish, and dangerous. Those cycle lanes are barely safe as they are without constantly being blocked by selfish people who think that they double as a parking space. You already have nearly the entirety of the city for your vehicle. Leave these alone.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

but I think I might get through to you if I reign it in

Condescending piece of shit. Fuck you.

The premise alone that you're not the one who needs to be gotten through to but I am. Spoiled fucking brat. And the fucking nerve to think you can not just talk down to me, but act like you even have the fucking knowledge to speak on this situation from the perspective of an outsider. Childlike entitlement and narcissism. And fucking stupid in the worst, laziest way. Incurious and presumptive.

Just understand that I am seething with rage while I type this.

Then walk away. Message me again when you're in a place where you can admit you're wrong. I'm not going to waste my time or energy on you until you're ready to accept the premise that I'm a human being that deserves equal consideration to you.

And since conceding that puts you at odds with your spoiled entitlement to my physical well being, I expect you to shut the fuck up and not reply at all.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

This is what I get for trying to be civil. You're a terrible person and you should be ashamed of yourself.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Acting like you're doing a favor by being seething and condescending instead of openly hostile isn't being civil, you spoiled fucking child. Just demonstrating your complete lack of self awareness.

You're guilty of everything you're accusing me of. For your convenience you want to sacrifice my safety. You're entitled and selfish. You genuinely think you're more important than other people. You think I'm a bad person because I don't want to be treated that way. Grow the fuck up.

I told you to walk away until you calmed down and could accept the possibility that you're wrong. You couldn't do that. Do you think I'm being unfair when I call you a spoiled narcissistic child in this context? If you do you're exactly as stupid as you've demonstrated so far.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Stop projecting

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

You should read Marx, you know, educate yourself. Those delivery drivers are agents of the bourgeoisie, and class traitors don't deserve respect.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Entitled treat hogs want their shit in 24 hours and they want all the consequences to fall on the people 'lower' than them. Fuck them.

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

The problem, my dear, is Amazon.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

The problem is suburbs and single family homes. They want all of the convenience and infrastructure of living in a city they just want it spread out to the point they never have to interact with anyone else. Give me a centralized community center where people go to get their deliveries and it solves everybody's problem.

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

That's also a problem. Most of the people on Fuck Cars also acknowledge that suburbanism is not sustainable, and want denser communities.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I wish they'd just use the postal service. In Canada they've set up nice secure package boxes and leave a key in your normal (also secured) mailbox. And if it takes a few days to arrive, so be it.

They should change extra for packages too large or urgent for Canada Post and use that money to hire professionals that understand not everything revolves around their delivery schedule and that random cyclists that happen to be passing through the area have nothing to do with their orders.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

This is OK

This is ridiculous

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