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[-] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 79 points 4 days ago

Sam also had the ring for a short time (longer than Déagol)

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

1850 years with the ring and accomplished nothing? What did he expect to be different? The ring didn't work. Try something new.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 108 points 4 days ago

He conquered the kings of men, and turned the dwarf lords to greed and wrath. He built Barad-dur and obliterated Numenor. He caused the separation of Valinor from the rest of Arda. He killed Gil-Galad and Elendil, and triggered the Elves leaving Arda forever.

If not for the hobbits, Sauron would have been unstoppable.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 4 days ago

The elves and humans were significantly more powerful for most of the second age. The third age was an era of general decline.

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Wasn't it an era of decline specifically due to Sauron's actions?

[-] Maultasche@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

He did use the ring in the war against Eregion, the siege of Ost-in-Edhil, and to influence the Numenoreans.

[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago

Middle Earth itself has been described as the "ring" that Morgoth poured his own power into. Since a river is an extension of Middle Earth, it means Morgoth really was the true Lord of the Rings.

[-] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Sam was the lord of the rings. I will not be taking questions.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 days ago

Frodo had the ring for 17 years? And he and Sam didn't age at all during that?

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 62 points 4 days ago

If your only source is the movies, one of the annoying gripes about them is they have this deceptive editing that makes it seem like Frodo left the Shire within a relatively short timespan after the birthday party.

Frodo got the ring on the 22nd of September of 3001. He leaves Bag End on the 23rd of September...of 3018.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

Interesting, though that still doesn't explain the aging part though. I get that Hobbits age slower than humans but if their life expectancy is only 100 years, the difference should be noticeable right?

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago

Sam aged, Frodo did not. I recall several mentions throughout the books that Frodo was considered unusually young-looking for a 50-year old hobbit, just as Bilbo himself was very young-looking for 111. Owning the ring seems to basically just pause your aging, even if you're not using it.

Sam was also twelve years younger than Frodo, but since Frodo stopped aging for 17 years, he wound up effectively older, physically speaking.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Not pause, but slow. That's why Gollum looked like shit, but still good for being 500 years old!

[-] shottymcb@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

When 500 years old you reach, look as good you will not hmm?

[-] cd_slash_rmrf@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

he wasn't actively wearing/using the ring while in the shire iirc

[-] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 13 points 4 days ago

They are Hobbits, they don't really age all that fast.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

according to Google they have a life expectancy of 100 years, so they do age a bit slower but a ~20 year difference should still be noticeable

[-] oce@jlai.lu 19 points 4 days ago

To justify the investment, it would need to become mainstream.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Old Man River. Old Man Hydra?

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

So like, an animated series featuring river fish, like Finding Nemo but with the One Ring?

[-] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I would watch this again and again and treasure it and call it my precious FOREVER.

The movie could be a long story arc with the main fish getting the ring stuck around them and having all sorts of adventures, learning valuable lessons and finally returning to their spawning point to teach the other local fish all the knowledge the main fish had learned. It would all wrap up to this beautifully happy ending and BAM! Déagol grabs it. Movie ends.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 14 points 4 days ago
[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Ah shit, ya beat me to it

[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

That's why you should stab it in the mouth.

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