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[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 109 points 2 months ago

A buddy of mine was injured by an IED in Afghanistan, he lost his right eye. Every year he goes to the VA for his regular checkup and the doctor has to sign some paperwork that he then needs to get notarized. Social Security says they need all that to make sure he's still disabled... you know, checking that he hasn't spontaneously regrown an eyeball miraculously and would then be cheating the system I guess. Our benefit system for disabled people is really fucking broken.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

My buddy's leg is like that for the same reason and goes through the exact same process. Still no leg.

[-] jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The cost of this and thousands of other pointless assessments by qualified medical professionals probably costs more than people receive in benefits in the first place let alone the cost of a handful of cases of actual fraud.

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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ok, but these have to be artificial hurdles - a yearly notarized doctors note?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Yeah, if it wasn’t artificial there would be a system to register a disability as impossible to recover from for stuff like loss of body parts.

[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

If he forgets his appointment or can't otherwise make it, it can take weeks if not months for a VA doc to see him and, in the meantime, he could lose his benies for like 6 months.

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[-] Glitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 2 months ago

Buddy of mine has no eyes. Has to get reevaluated every year. Still doesn't have eyes. Probably won't next year, let's check just to be sure

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago

There sure must be lots of people faking having no eyes.

/s

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 56 points 2 months ago

I was turned down with genitofemoral neuropathy because the government insists on record of ongoing treatment. The only continuous treatment for nerve damage is pain management, and I can’t take opiates.

I’ve paid into Social Security for 25 years, yet I can’t access my own money when I’m in desperate need of it. Fuck this system.

[-] hobovision@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

This sounds silly, but could you fill your opiate prescription and just toss the pills? Maybe you can find a doctor willing to record your ongoing treatment as whatever works for you.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

The disability attorneys I’ve spoken with say it’s a double-edged sword. The government is also reluctant to support indefinite opiate treatment (with good reason). They said I’d have better luck applying for SSI citing the psychological effects from the pain rather than applying for SSD for the disability itself.

[-] Mk23simp 49 points 2 months ago

I would go further, especially considering the context:

Give people a survivable wage.

Regardless of whether they can work or not. People's survival should not be contingent on working. Give people what they need to survive as a baseline, and then if they want to work for more, they can negotiate for employment on equal terms.

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 42 points 2 months ago

So if she doesn't attend she gets denied for missing appointments and if she does, she's obviously not disabled enough, right?

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 months ago
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[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

All these government benefits programs are ready to deny 100 valid people benefits if it means they stop one instance of fraud. Because only the one instance of fraud gets attention in the corporate media.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

All these government benefits programs are ready to deny 100 valid people benefits if it means they stop one instance of fraud.

That's my criticism of conservatives obsessing and crusading over welfare fraud. Sure, fraud happens, what system is fool proof? But conservatives make it as though it is prevalent when statistics show that it's not (I don't know about the US but in UK welfare fraud is statistically not a big of an issue as it is made out to be). I met a guy who is nice and intelligent, and a conservative based from the views he espoused during the conversation, but he obsess over welfare fraud like many conservatives. Just because he personally saw few instances of fraud, he makes it as though it is a pervasive issue.

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[-] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago

I can confirm that it's a fucking terrible process and that they'll use anything they can against you.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Just a reminder, we spend more preventing welfare fraud than we save by preventing fraud. We could just give cash away on the honor system to everyone who asks for it, and we would save money.

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[-] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

Well, if you cant work you are a shame (and a traitor) for the Working class as Serving the rich would normally be your one and only job. /s

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

With our new presidential elect, we might not need to pay them benefits anymore. He could just get rid of them! /s

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Putting Dole Up To £1K A Week | Kevin Bridges: A Whole Different Story

That takes balls. That takes balls, George Osborne, Ian Duncan Smith... looking through disabled people's doors: "This is your fucking fault, mate, you. We could go after tax-avoiding multinationals. We could go after Vodafone, Starbucks, Amazon, Google, Gary Barlow, but it is your fucking fault. You."

"You're going back to work, mate. We don't give a fuck how disabled you are. Oh, you're paralysed from the neck down. We don't give a fuck, mate. There will be a farm out there looking for a scarecrow. Fucking go to the farm."

[-] Comrade_Spood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

Nah, I'll do you one better. Abolish money, an economy based on mutual aid.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry but a system of currency of some sort is kind of a must in the modern world.

I can't reasonably know enough people who I could help do something so that I could get a phone, an e-bike, all the foods that I enjoy, etc etc etc.

"Abolish money" is a sort of naive thing to say, really. Even in Star Trek, they don't really explain it, because people can't even imagine a society really working truly without any currency, because of the problems it eventually leads to. Like even in Star Trek, Picard owns a huge vineyard and has people working there. Why? I'm sure most of the goods are going to be shared without making profit off of them or anything, but still, it just doesn't really make sense. And they've owned that vineyard for centuries.

Honestly just the systems we have, if we take basically the best of all the systems around the world and take the good and leave the bad and assume very little corruption of non-significant levels and we assume that we actually tax the wealthy properly, I think we could have the world looking radically different in a matter of few decades. I don't think it's easy for any humans (including me) to even fathom the effect it would have if people honestly didn't take as much as they wanted, but as much as they needed, and perhaps a little on top.

I know of a couple of very fair bosses here in the Nordics who actually pay their employees very well and while they make a bit more as the owner of the company, not really significantly more. I don't believe even double, let alone triple, whereas usually tens or hundreds of times more than the average worker. Although these aren't large companies I'm talking about.

I'm just saying there's no need to "abolish money". Money is fine, it's just being hoarded away from everyone who actually need it and would actually use it.

How about if we start with "Abolish billionaires" first, we'll see about how realistic it is about the whole "abolish money entirely" later on, yeah?

Tangentially related video:

Putting Dole Up To £1K A Week | Kevin Bridges: A Whole Different Story

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

This whole thing was settled with Clinton.

Both sides have voted repeatedly to cut the social safety net, even for the disabled.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 36 points 2 months ago

I'm sure the presidential office holds a lot of power but I'm not sure it reaches as far as the UK benefit system.

That's been a cruel mess far longer than Clinton did anything to you.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Give disabled people who are unable to work a survivable wage

Hilarious. Ha ha ha. As if.

Society was already hostile towards the disabled. Just wait to see how much worse it's going to get.

I'm not looking forward to it.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

51% seems low

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