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[-] geekworking@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

Definitely mixed feelings.

I really hate the idea of giving him any platform to try to turn the trial into a reality shit show. The worst thing that you can do with an attention seeking child is to give them attention.

The flip side is transparency. The more transparency, the less opportunity for outright lies about the process. No amount of truth and reality will matter to the kool-aid chuggers, but there are still some with one foot still in reality.

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

If it makes you feel any better, as a fan of Knowledge Fight, I followed the Alex Jones Sandy Hook defamation trial in Texas pretty closely. Alex did his best to turn the trial into a circus, throwing out deep state conspiracies, complaining about the process and his first amendment rights on the stand, and otherwise showboating. The judge was on top of it and shut it all down, and a lot of that came back to bite him in the ass. It didn't help that Alex kept doing his show while the trial was ongoing and freshly defaimed the plaintiffs and alluded to the jury as being brainwashed liberals.

I'd imagine the same thing happens here. Whether trying to make a circus out of the proceedings helps Trump in the presidential race, I don't know. But it's not going to do him any favors with the judge and jury.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I saw some of the trial. That judge just radiated the look some parent of a toddler has at MacDonalds. The "I am not going to yell and I am not going to bend. I am the adult, this is the toddler. And that is the way it is going to be"

You will keep your shoes on.

45 seconds later

You will keep your shoes on

45 seconds later

You will keep your shoes on

45 seconds later

You will keep your shoes on or we are going home.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The judge and jury won't mean a thing if he wins the election and takes office before they convict him. He'll just pardon himself and try to destroy everyone involved in the cases against him. His defense team will focus heavily on delaying the trial.

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

He can't pardon himself in state level trials.

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

No problem! He'll just create an executive order that he has that power. Done.

Not constitutional you say? He'll fix that the same way.

[-] JoeyHarrington@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

He can't pardon state charges

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And then it goes to the Supreme Court and they have a novel theory about pardons or some legal shenanigans where he can count time in the White House as time served.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Hopefully any kind of jury isn't shown on camera otherwise this is doxxing.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Way too early for a jury, but when cameras are in courtrooms they’re not allowed to do things like show the jury, or show witnesses or evidence that the judge rules must remain confidential. Any violation and the photographer could be held in contempt.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

No amount of transparency will prevent his outright lies. It's going to be a total shit show.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Nothing is going to stop the outright lies

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

He's a bitch when around anyone with any real authority. I'm for it. I want his followers to see how weak, pitiful, and guilty he really is.

[-] chris2112@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's tough because the last few high profile cases to allow cameras in the courtroom have if anything shown that too much transparency can be a bad thing, especially when you make a spectacle out of a process that anyone who isn't a trial attorney isn't going to properly understand, but will certainly draw their own conclusions regardless

[-] negativenull@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago

Since RICO is likely part of the George indictment, we may get to see Trump/Giuliani/Powell/etc on the stand. That'll be amazing.

I just hope Nebraska is growing enough corn for the future popcorn needs.

[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I just hope Nebraska is growing enough corn for the future popcorn needs.

Doubt.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Worker productivity will plummet.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Glad I can listen to the audio while at work at least.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Just like when we were all watching the insurrection instead of working on jan 6th

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Trump gets his circus but will he be the main act or a sideshow?

[-] Techmaster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does anyone know why they don't allow cameras in federal courtrooms? I'm curious if there's a good reason for it, or if it's one of these weird laws from a time before cameras.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I believe cameras aren't allowed in federal courtrooms because it prevents jurors from being identified and threatened/blackmailed.

[-] captain_samuel_brady@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I’m going to assume it’s because of the shitshow that was the OJ trial.

This time the glove will fit with his tiny hands

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

This will only help his campaign, unfortunately.

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's hard to say. Honestly, I think the GOP is in a pinch. They want the turnout that trump affords them but they also want him out of the way as clean as possible. When MAGA people come to the realization that the GOP is trying the bait and switch, shit will really get spicy.

[-] StupidFatRat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Ohh, this is gonna be great lmao. Any guesses on how Donny is gonna spin his propaganda in the courtroom?

[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly that spin sounds like a pretty good reason to keep the media out.

[-] sigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I just want to see his illiterate ass get asked to read something out loud

[-] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[-] style99@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

lol

Yeah. I wonder "if" fire is actually hot or "if" the ocean is wet.

[-] Anissem@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Can confirm, fire hot, ocean wet, trump guilty

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

🍿🍿🍿

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Kinda weird it doesn't really say why. Like in practice maybe it doesn't matter but I'm curious if this is a "in this state we always allow cameras and we're not making an exception" ruling or a "this is in the public interest" ruling.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

McBurney apparently leans towards broadcasting everything.

[-] ScrollinMyDayAway@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I can see him quiet and pouting on camera like the little man-baby he was with Putin. And taking the 5th on everything.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ugh. Terrible decision. Cameras in a court room have never brought us anything but miscarriage of justice. With Trump it's gonna be even worse.

[-] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's corrupt but don't think it will apply to this case.

[-] Im14abeer@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

I think I read June 2024 is when complaints (therefore investigations/removal) can begin to be filed.

[-] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How do you think it would?

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