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[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 217 points 3 months ago

So angry this isn’t even satire.

[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago

I think it counts as satire, even if the headline is a completely true statement.

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[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 months ago

seriously. they'll have a LOT more believable articles for the next few years.

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 189 points 3 months ago

The reality is even worse. They're going to "learn" all the wrong lessons. They will shift further to the right, like they always do.

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yep, every time Dems can't get enough votes from the left to win, because they aren't "left/pure enough" for them, what they learn is to shift to the right to find votes.

Whereas since voters on the right will always vote for the one with the R by their name even if they don't think the candidate is "right enough", their party learns that it doesn't have to move to the left to find enough votes and stays to the right or moves even further to the right.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 35 points 3 months ago

...you don't win over conservatives by offering light-conservatism, but the democratic party have run the same playbook since 1992...

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 106 points 3 months ago

We also want to congratulate our friends in the Republican party, they played a great game and we can’t wait to work with them more.

Republican National Committee Chair Michael Whatley is excited to see his colleagues at the DNC make the same mistakes over and over.

This is amazing.

“I saw how the DNC ignored voters, I saw how they talked down to people, and that just made my job easy. I go in and say ‘Democrats think you’re dumb, but Republicans think you’re a genius’ and these dopes eat it up like the slop they feed their pigs.

Holy fuck is this even satire anymore? I can literally see a GOP campaign official say that in private.

[-] iwndwyt@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago

In private? I can see them saying it on TV and the rubes still voting for them since all they watch is Fox News and they'd never run it.

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[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 92 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

“To all those growing skeptical of this party’s strategies and overall agenda, let me just say we hear you loud and clear. Rest assured we will be doing everything short of interpreting that sound into words and responding to those words in any way shape or form.”

This is an all-timer.

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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 80 points 3 months ago

I literally see voters saying the Democrats were too left leaning, jfc.

With parties like this, painful collapse is the only way to avoid multigenerational destitution.

There is no saving the United States as a framework. It is far too compromised, with too many methods installed to keep the people willfully ignorant and infighting as the owners suck their life forces dry for profit.

We can limp along and pretend that isn't the case, but climate change, aka the reality that doesn't give a shit about our self-delusion and greed worship, will force that collapse sooner rather than later. Reality can't be bribed, deluded, disappeared, or discredited.

Enjoy living in delusion that a society can function in capitalist competition against itself, the ability to do so is coming to an end.

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[-] m_f@midwest.social 63 points 3 months ago

Local opinion piece:

https://www.startribune.com/brehm-democrats-have-themselves-to-blame-for-trumps-election/601176736

I read it because of the title, but it's just some shithead that wants them to move further right:

This red wave wasn’t as much about embracing Donald Trump as it was repudiating far-left progressivism.

[...], and then foisted upon us an equally unqualified and unpalatable hard left alternative.

They are already creating the groundwork for sucking more corporate dick.

[-] jlou@mastodon.social 50 points 3 months ago

How can this be a rejection of the far left when Harris campaigned as a moderate (e.g. Cheney)? If republican voters are going to think Democrats are communist regardless of how moderate the Democrats are, maybe moderating isn't a good strategy. If the only choice is between right-wing and lite right-wing, right-wing voters will choose the real thing. Even then, Trumpists will still call democrats communists.

Many left polices are popular when they aren't labelled as left

@theonion

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[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Reminds me of that joke about how there are only two races: White, and political. It's disheartening to see folks (some here on Lemmy) confusing listening to the concerns of brown-skinned people with leftism. The Arab-Americans in Michigan, for a relevant example, are just people with a range of political opinions like the rest of us.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 62 points 3 months ago

Oh they learned their lessons:

  1. blame minorities
  2. shift further right
[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 61 points 3 months ago

Have they tried committing multiple felonies ? Are they even watching and learning ?

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[-] vordalack@lemm.ee 54 points 3 months ago

They ran Harris thinking she would win based on her demographics. The DNC needs to learn that not everyone wants a black/LGBTQ/woman/etc candidate that just runs on their race/gender/sexuality.

They want someone that's competent that will campaign on policies that will make their lives better. The DNC has moved so far away from the working class that the RNC, the party of wealthy creeps, has them.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They ran Harris because she was the only candidate they could justify shoehorning in without a primary, since she's VP.

Why they didn't want to run a primary is a great question. Probably cost and time, and name recognition. Studies show that often the candidate with the most name recognition wins. There's wasn't enough time to tell every person in America a brand new person's name.

But usually VPs don't do well when they run as president. Imo Dems are just trying to avoid another Bernie Sanders situation - a leftist with an authentic campaign and people who genuinely like them. More than anything, they gotta stop real progress in this country.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 31 points 3 months ago

Imo Dems are just trying to avoid another Bernie Sanders situation - a leftist with an authentic campaign and people who genuinely like them

100% this is why. They didn't want any internal pressure for progressive policies or a public platform to voice them.

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago

It’s going to be really fun to see them dust off the same exact playbook next time around, I already have two copies of it, I use one to even out the table in my kitchen, and the other I use the pages to pick up my dogs shit in the yard.”

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

Theyre not the ones that need to learn. Voters need to learn DNC is a bunch of wealthy moderates grifting voters.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

What if the DNC privately wins by making sure their candidate loses?

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[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago

Oh they know how to win. They just don't want to. The policy decisions that would lock in Dem control for generations to come run counter to the goals of DNC Services Corp. Because they're a corp.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago

Democrats have to be deft and diplomatic and do the right things all the time that somehow appeal to all the Americans (including Americans on opposite sides like Palestine supporters and Israel supporters) and they lose if they fumble even a little bit.

Unlike the MAGA party of bigots who can't lose no matter how much of dipshits they are.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 55 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Bro BFFR Dems had Dick and Liz Cheney endorsing her, exactly what part of their base is a war criminal and his nepo baby supposed to appeal to?

Edit to add: this is who they sent to stump for Harris in Michigan and other swing states btw

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

She also had Taylor Swift, Bernie Sanders, Obama, Mark Cuban, multple military generals endorsing her, among others.

But sure, it was the Cheneys that outweighed everyone else. That's the problem, not American voters who didn't think 'holy shit everyone across the sociopolitical landscape is coming together supporting her, trump is that much of a serious threat'.

Great work👍

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 45 points 3 months ago

You're in the headline, btw.

It's insane to me how Democrats keep appealing to the right, when their historically greatest turnout has been galvanizing their base like with Obama.

And yes, a war criminal's endorsement is more important to me than a pop star's. One of them actually works in policy.

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[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 28 points 3 months ago

I disagree. At the risk of oversimplifying, American voters tend to respect strength of conviction, even if they don't always agree with the policy, over milquetoast candidates. That's why Sanders attracted so many voters who went on to vote for the other party's candidate in the general election. Democrats need to decide what they believe in, and say it long, loud, and proud.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago

The funniest part of this is the idea that there will be an opposition party in anything but a token way after this.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 23 points 3 months ago

...was there one before?..

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Was there a party that did not install SCOTUS justices that were so ideologically conservative that they did things like end national legal abortion and gut the ability of government regulation agencies to regulate?

Yes there was. But that party is not coming back except as a token now because people just didn't think stopping the rapist fascist dictator was a good enough reason to vote.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 30 points 3 months ago

But that party is not coming back except as a token now because people just didn’t think stopping the rapist fascist dictator was a good enough reason to vote

"The party didn't think stopping the rapist fascist dictator was a good enough reason to listen to their voters"

FTFY

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

The only "The Onion" rather than "Not The Onion" part of this is the idea that they would announce it.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'd say "The Onion" part of this is that the democratic party doesn't need to learn any lessons because it's doing exactly what they want to do. The people who will refuse to learn from this are the people who still put faith in them and the democratic system in general.

Sure democrats would prefer to win but the most important thing to them is making sure that policies to the left of the republican party are never a serious threat to the donors they both share. That's pretty obvious at this point, right?

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[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 months ago

So far what I have learned about what Kamala has learned is:

It is now the darkest night in America.

But...

There are billions of stars you can only see at night!

...

You know, faint, distant glimmers from long, long ago, that you can squint at and imagine they form coherent, stable, meaningful structures... which are not, and never really were there at all.

...

I do not know if she was intentionally attempting to invert/reference Reagan's 'Morning in America' and HW's 'Thousand points of light', or if she somehow thought this was an original, meaningful metaphor.

Either would be pathetic and disgusting.

...

Anyway, quite literally that may have been how democracy in America died, to another speech of meaningless platitudes, ending with thunderous applause, congratulating that a failed struggle was worth it, because even though it failed, it played by the rules and was gracious in defeat.

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[-] gatorgato@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

What's the thing that will send you websites at a set date in the future? Wanna take bets and look at this 4 years from now to the day?

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[-] GingerWitch@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

Pffft!!! If your idea of "learning" is to copy any of the fascist ideas of trump, then yes, they should NOT learn anything. Did Jews after Hitler go fascist...... Oh wait.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago

What I would like to know the most is why 14 million registered Democrats failed to vote in this election, especially given what is at stake. Because if it was for some stupid, single issue, then fark them, good and hard.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 55 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

it's because the dems tacked hard right to appeal to the mythical "moderate conservative" while telling everyone to the left of them to fuck off for months and months on end. people were shouting from the rooftops that this was going to cost them the election, and damn wouldn't you know it, it looks like it did! will they learn from it? probably not!

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