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[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To be fair, other countries want US citizens even less than the US wants* immigrants.

Do people actually think that the US is alone in anti-immigration sentiment? Do they think it’s different because they’re American?

The US is the one with a giant monument to immigration, at whose feet is a plaque that reads:

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

And if they, of all people, are now against that, what makes Americans think anyone else will want them? It’s delusional.

Many countries shut down immigration to Americans in 2016, after the first round of trump’s policies, and they haven’t opened back up yet, partly because there was a solid chance of this happening again.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

???

It's easy as piss to emigrate from America as long as you:

Are white, middle class, not provably disabled, not gay, with no criminal history, with at least one million in assets, as long as you don't have a history of activism, already are hired by a local company, and have a STEM degree.

See?

Easy.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

I checked out Canadian requirements. The first stage of screening asks your name, email and year of birth - which only goes back to 1970. So apparently I'm too old.

[-] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

That number specifically indicates that they're probably using a positive integer amount of seconds since the epoch (jan 1st, 1970). Rookie mistake.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hey, that’s not entirely fair. Russia is more than happy to accept Americans, so long as they’re willing to be cannon fodder for a while. I’m pretty sure they’re not even putting an age limit on it. If you survive, you may even get a small flat afterwards. And if you don’t, they may give your parents money for a Lada (providing they were Russian citizens already).

e: link

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

IMO any American who wants to emigrate to Russia is welcome to become topsoil in Ukraine.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The US wants immigrants, MAGA doesn't want immigrants. And I can fully understand anybody not wanting MAGAs. I wish they would evaporate off the face of the Earth.

[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 42 points 6 days ago

Well, then kick him out. Or maybe guillotine him out, so that he doesn't return.

Like, if people were actually that irked that he won, they'd be doing something. But no, from what I hear El Trumpo actually won the popular vote: the US wants to be fascist. Maybe Canada too. (No, not as in the US wants to be Canada... although that'd be an improvement...)

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

So far, it's only been his supporters trying to kill him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

At least we'll always have the ironic laugh at how the US, a country with guns for everyone, didn't even get a tin medal in shooting the Olympics, and how the US, a country with the 2nd Amendment, can't even kill a tyrant right.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 days ago

You can outlive this. There's a good chance he can't. Be strong, and look out for those more vulnerable than yourself.

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

My concern is that the train is still running at full speed even if the driver has died of a heart attack.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago

I've been looking for silver linings. The two I've found are:

  1. Trump probably won't live to see the end of his term. Dude is old and not exactly healthy. One could argue Vance taking his place would be worse, but I'm choosing to focus on the positives here.

  2. Trump winning very likely prevented a civil war. I know a ton of people who had been stocking up on supplies and weapons. Again, one could argue giving these people the keys to the kingdom probably wasn't the smartest move, but again I'm trying to focus on the positives.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

I think he's the devil and he'll never die. I wouldn't count on him dying. In my experience really poisonous people live a long time.

[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

He is basically line for line the biblical antichrist. That's infinitely funny to me.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

this is honestly the thing that's getting me to question my atheism.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

I mean the Antichrist loses so you go that going for you I guess

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Hey, quit shitting on my silver lining. I choose to believe he'll die soon due to Macdonald's induced heart failure and you can't take that hope away from me!

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

It's not like there was an assassination attempt during his rise to power and he survived with a headwound or anything like that, right?

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago

Agreed on both points. The second means today is safer although Project 2025 spells danger ahead.

As for Trump, his physical deterioration and dementia and just general chaos of intentions are more of a check on him accomplishing evil than anything legal or political. When he runs the economy completely off the rails will it spark anything in the midterms? Will his Cabinet change every week? How long until he "never met" Elon?

So we draw breath, and persevere.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Oh boy, President JD 'couch enthusiast' Vance!

[-] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

That's just it, I'm a white male, I know I'll be comparatively fine. It's not really me I'm worried about.

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Thank you for this. It’s more helpful than you know.

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Don't come to Canada. We don't have enough housing for the people already here. Most of you will die of exposure during your first winter here.

Go to Mexico instead. I'm sure they'll take you.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 6 points 5 days ago

Well with Trump in power, factoring in the accelerated climate change ppl may be ok in winter.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 5 days ago

As a wisconsinite I can tell you climate change is destabilizing the polar vortex so now there's about a week every year where it's -40 so climate change isn't just about warming but the general change and destabilization of the climate

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Hot gets hotter and cold gets colder. I don't know why think one without the other. It's how the Earth fights back.

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

There is that.

Canada talking a lot of good shit in posts like this lately. Don't get me wrong, I grew up near the border and I love Canada, but don't pretend it's not just a handful of resource extraction companies stacked in a trench coat pretending to be a country.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

We rank above the US is virtually every metric. Education. Healthcare. Life expectancy. Lower infant and maternal mortality. Standard of living. Quality of life. Safety. Religious freedom. Personal freedom. Better place to do business. Better place to headquarter a business. Better beer. Maple syrup.

But by all means, keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to get through the day.

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[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Don't worry. He'll be coming for Canada. You already have MAGA lovers up there. Who's going to stop him? The Canadian military?

[-] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It already well on it's way depending on your province. People have moved out of Quebec because of the intolerance going on there. Hell, I know a streamer who moved because someone threw a fucking brick through their window at his wife who moved there from the USA. Not because she's black or colored either, because she's white as a piece of paper.

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[-] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago
[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 5 days ago

Send me up to the ISS. I'll keep the dudes stranded up there company until this whole thing blows over. And if WW3 happens, I'll be safe.

[-] Resand@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Sure, but there's also half of your countrymen to think about

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago

True. Trump does not hold a monopoly on suck.

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[-] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

If it gets bad I actually will move to Canada, I'm a dual citizen

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago

Hey there sailor.

Wanna get gay married?

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[-] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's not just that, people are acting like things are better in other countries. Like, name ONE country that has not gone off the deep end and ended up on the right recently. One major player. I'll wait. There is no utopia waiting for you in those other countries because they don't want you there and acting like you will be accepted as a refugee is foolhardy. The USA is a shit show right now, but we also don't know the future. It looks bleak right now because of the information we have RIGHT NOW. If you want to move out of the country, be my guest, but don't act like it's going to automatically be better, it's just going to be a different kind of shit show.

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