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Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the sense of complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.

I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.

I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.

The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.

I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.

In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago

¿Porque no los dos?

[-] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 56 points 1 day ago

Trump literally said Israel should finish the job. You're getting both genocides and probably a few on top!

[-] daddy32@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Ukrainians in Ukraine too. And immigrants in US. Interesting times.

[-] Itisreallyboring@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Tankies See this as a bonus.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

A genocide of brown people too. And not just the ones in the U.S. illegally. Anyone who is brown and happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time either without ID or with an ID that a cop thinks is fake or stolen is going to be sent to a camp. That's not even a "potential" thing. Trump has promised to deport millions of people. There is no way they can do that without accidentally deporting plenty of citizens and putting them in concentration camps first while they work out extradition deals.

So this is wild speculation but if you had to gander, how many days do you think we have till Russia v Poland, 180? 360? I think we are going to have to Tony Hawk it and say 720 at most. Normally it takes Russia 8 years to get a new erection but I hear Trump's got pills in his mouth

[-] SonOfMothman@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Oh trump is going to help flatten Gaza with such a raging boner. Everyone that voted “uncommitted” has the blood on their hands they blamed others. Fucking repugnant

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Everyone that voted “uncommitted” has the blood on their hands

Once again, the peaceful protesters are responsible for the state violence inflicted upon them. Its just like when the BLM protesters cost Hillary the election. Or when the LGBTQ community and the anti-war movement handed Bush a second term.

Just stop resisting! Stop resisting! Stop resisting or you will be hurt much worse! And then you will have only yourself to blame!

[-] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

You voted for trump. You’ll get what you deserve.

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[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Uncommitted to democracy, uncommitted to secular society, uncommitted to global stability, must I go on.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly I'm hoping he gets stuck between a rock and a hard place. IF he lets Israel do so he cannot help Putin defend Iran, his missile and Drone supplier. Millions will suffer, no doubt. It's horrifying, but Trump can't let Israel kill wildly (hard to say they haven't been) until he gets the majority of the U.S. to side against Russias invasion of Ukraine. Which means also turning against trade agreements in Europe. He will have to kill so much to gain little. (A few beach condos in the West Bank) Is what all of that started about. His son did the appraisals if I remember correctly.

Meaning. Would it not be easier to collect $2 billion in kick backs from Putin and ditch Israel. My thought is that is what he will choose. He will say the ammo caches we have their are dated, and we have no interest supporting foreign wars. So cut funding and ammunitions to Ukraine/Israel. His base will act like it is for a good reason... And he gets his wish. Russia will make an agreement with Iran which will make an agreement with the entire area... That a few beach properties are set aside for the Trump family businesses

After all, the cache loses are U.S. tax dollars, not his

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

The number of people who essentially told me that my kid's life didn't matter because of Gaza before this election was just disgusting.

And they're going to stand there as queer people are marched into conversion camps and say it was your fault.

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[-] littlecolt@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago

Yeah where's all the fucking dipshits that were on here before yelling nonstop about Kamala not getting their vote because of the genocide in Gaza, hmm? I guess Russia doesn't need to employ them anymore.

[-] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

More like canceled their ChatGPT subscription

[-] Kit 1 points 1 day ago

They're now advocating for violence. A civil war would be a great way to destabilize the US.

[-] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

They’re still here, for some reason. Maybe everyone thought the election would take a few days to call and so they paid for a few more days of disinformation?

[-] socsa@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago

All of these so called anti fascists sure do seem excited about a fascist being elected

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[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Its always amazing to me.the lengths someone will go to to avoid blaming their party or candidate for a loss. The blame is not even directed to the millions of people who actively voted for the fascist, but to the political minority with the least impact on the result.

Lets face facts. The DNCs strategy to move to the right and court the mythical moderate Republican failed again. Their strategy to fund extremist Republican candidates in local races was another bet on the goodwill of the GOP voters and look they lost the Senate. They failed you.

They failed the country. They had a huge hand in creating the trump mess for their own assumed gain and yet, none of the average libs will acknowledge it. They took the votes of independents and leftists for granted and decided Liz Cheney and AIPAC would bring them victory and they failed again. Face it.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago

I hate to downvote a Star Trek meme, but that top half is inaccurate. America voted for a genocide of American LGBTQ and Gaza. Both.

We "avoided" precisely fuck-all and everyone who claimed otherwise is a blatant goddamn liar.

[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

It's directed at people who absolutely cannot vote for Harris due to her stance on Gaza. Instead, they enabled a war on their LGBTQ neighbors.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

But that's my point, though: they didn't do that "instead." They did that in addition to!

Fucking lying, bloodthirsty, fascist clowns, all of them.

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[-] jawa21@startrek.website 31 points 2 days ago

You're not wrong. Yeah, I could have done better, but I'm in a self induced drunken rage.

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[-] nzeayn@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

the neat part is now we get both genocides.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

He had one genocide, yes. But what about the second (and third) genocide?

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[-] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago

I hope for the best for your safety, sanity, and well being. Fuck this "interesting times" nonsense.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago

There's a reason people's are cursed "to live in interesting times."

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[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I told this to one of the tankies over in leftymemes, got called a genocide apologist and banned. Funny thing is, one of their mods is trans. Not American, though, so it doesn't matter to her I guess. And let me tell you, that mod in particular, she was working hard to convince people not to vote for Harris. Didn't have much to say about Trump, though... pretty interesting.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Asking a tankie what the best path forward is for the US is like a black man asking a Klansman for career advice. They want to see us burn, not be better.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago

In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.

Doesn't matter. They get to LARP with their purity politics. The lives of American minorities don't matter to them.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I've taken to calling them out as exactly what they are: virtue signallers. Like you said, they're just larping about caring about these people, and boy do they get salty when they have to deny it.

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[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 66 points 2 days ago

Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly.

Trump winning also supports the genocide in Gaza.

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[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I feel for your very unfortunate situation, but maybe you should've demanded more from your party, instead of putting the blame on people who draw the line at genocide. If the choice is between the number of genocides, maybe we should take a step back and reflect a little because this doesn't stop anywhere. Next time there will be two, three...

Republicans can go as fascist as they want, but if the Democrats are drugged in this race to the right, they will lose. They endorsed the wall, they did nothing about the immigrants and they 100% backed a genocide no questions asked, ever, what difference is an immigrant or Arab supposed to see from this?

No matter how much you accuse the people who didn't vote, the truth of the matter is that nothing will change if you don't demand from your party to stand for some values. For now, they follow Trump moving to the right.

[-] mjsaber 12 points 1 day ago

Our party? Democrats are no more my party than Republicans are. They are objectively the better option for someone like me given the alternative, but in no way do they represent me. They are just another element of the capitalist corporate hegemony, and I'm just a consumer to them.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

I feel really sad for Americans right now, especially anyone who needs/might need any procedure that could be construed as "abortion" (like the many reports of women who died because hospitals wouldn't take on the liability of terminating a clearly unviable fetus), and those in the LGBTQIA+ communities.

I feel the worst for those groups, though all of you have my sympathies.

As you might infer, I am not an American, and I am unable to vote in US elections. I am Canadian, and while I can't speak for all Canadians to invite you to come join us, I will say that, abortion is legal here. Every major city has a pride event every year. There's always protests to both, as you would expect (people exercising their rights to free speech), but there's no criminality in being LGBTQIA+ nor in getting an abortion.

Personally, anyone who wants to abandon this fight and flee to the north, I don't blame you, and if we ever meet, you will be accepted by me and the people I know for who you are.

Be safe, take care of yourself.

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[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Bottom panel should be "Genocide in Gaza AND..."

[-] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

One is occupied, in an open air prison, being bombed, no food, no water and no one to aid them. The other may have some of their rights taken. Don't compare the two.

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The other may have some of their rights taken.

They may also be barred from exercising certain professions and be treated as all around second class citizens.

They may also be barred from life saving medications and procedures.

They will be subject to more violence up to and including murder and it may be swept under the rug.

At least be a bit more exhaustive. And they isn't restricted to queer people. They're also racized folks, muslim, jewish, or simply women.

And while I agree that there aren't many situations which remotely might compare to the literal hell on earth that is Gaza, let's not forget that a lot of other people are in sucky situations which will get worse as a result of that election.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

I suppose it's not the best. But if things go really wrong. Every LGBT migrant is welcome in my country (Spain). We have some of the most advanced laws on LGBT protection on the planet.

And while we have our share of far right that wants ti abolish LGBT rights, it is unlikely they will succeed at this even if they reach power (please, don't let this afe like milk).

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[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Jeebus. Trans machinist in Georgia? That's a hard row to hoe there, hun. I ran a shop during 2020 and about half my crew was black. The political insanity ripped it apart.

Born and raised in Alabama, we moved to a northern state this summer. You need to think hard about getting out. We are not registered as Dems, but instead independent. Probably going to remove face pics from fet. Don't fly a pride flag. Figure if you're white, you'll be okay for a while. Probably be a while before they come after LGTBQ. Maybe things get better, IDK.

Keep your head down and your powder dry.

Our family motto is: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah. It has been really rough. I realistically can't work for someone else at all. Glad I have some really good contracts that keep my poor 40 year old Hurco churning stuff out.

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

I'm putting our little play farm together and then I'll be doing machining again. Have a potential contract for remote work that would be real nice. Otherwise, I'm going to have to go work in a shop for a little while and save up so I can build my own shop.

Luckily, I pass as a standard machinist good 'ol boy. Just have to keep my mouth shut and let them assume.

I've always heard and seen good things from Hurcos but have never ran one. I'm hoping to find a nice old Fadal mill and maybe an Okuma lathe here in the rust belt.

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