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Not to say that everyone that votes for Trump is a Nazi, but we do know who the Nazis are voting for.

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 143 points 5 days ago

Not to say that everyone that votes for Trump is a Nazi, ...

I'll say it. It's fascism. It's been fascism for a long time. People who vote for fascism are fascists.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

I did some door knocking with Pence's former national security advisor last night and got to shoot the shit with her. Never thought I would be doing that.

Suffice to say, she is firmly in the camp of "he's a fascist," and according to her, what he says behind close doors is even scarier.

Also, she claims (like other Trump officials) that he doesn't give 2 shits about his voters behind closed doors. He views them as plebs to con that so he can accumulate more wealth and more power.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Fascism is correct, but Nazism is more accurate.

Although not all fascists believed in biological racism, it played a central role in the actions of those who did. Nazism was viciously racist, especially in its attitude toward Jews.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism/Varieties-of-fascism

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[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago

I’m a broken record today, but please grab a few hours to phone bank or door knock with us today. Phone banking can be done on your couch, and you won’t feel like a POS if the fascists win and you could’ve spent 2 hours after dinner on a Sunday to secure a few more votes.

https://events.democrats.org/

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago

For the first time in my life I phone banked for Harris/Walz starting last month. I was expecting to be yelled at by Trumpers but that wasn’t the case. In case anyone is nervous about making the calls, you dont call Trump supporters, you call Dems and Independents to remind them it’s time to vote and how they can get information on voting. I haven’t had any nasty calls yet.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Correct. The calls are very targeted toward helping people correct a ballot that isn’t being counted, or helping / nudging sympathetic voters to get out.

A random volunteer ain’t going to be able to deprogram years of maga propaganda in a 2 minute phone call. Those calls are a waste of time. Turnout calls are more effective.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

But how do you get their numbers? Just dial randomly and hang up if the person sounds Republican?

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

When you volunteer with a campaign, you don’t get the phone numbers and don’t use your actually cell phone. You use a dialer program where the campaign dials and connects you via your computer. So you click a button that says you are ready to do a call, the program then uses their phone system to dial someone in their system and it connects the call to you via your computer. The phone numbers come from wherever campaigns get their lists from.

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[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago

Plus also make sure to encourage and remind any dem leaning people you know to get out and vote. Friends, family, neighbors, etc it makes more of a difference than you might think

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

And bring a friend of your phone banking. Grab a beer, have fun with it. It’s not hard and you’re going to be targeting sympathetic voters, not the maga brainwashed.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago

Also also worth noting that there's also even phone banking on Tuesday on election day too if you want something to do that day beyond just voting (if you have not yet voted)

https://go.kamalaharris.com/calls/

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Hey, I was working solo through a 42-door canvass list when I saw your post, it was encouraging!

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Not bad. Any fun people on the list?

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Dunno, I'm not a natural at this, so I'm still "decompressing". I kept thinking of that picture with the kid holding a sign saying "It's so bad, even the introverts are here!"

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[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I would volunteer for a campaign (or even just donate) in a heartbeat... but it's unethical... I'm one of our nation's poor, underpaid and overworked local news media staffers. To be clear, I'm not a journalist, but the rules preventing any appearance of impropriety apply to me as well. I can't give up my job to work pro bono on campaigns (and it's dubious for me to donate). I can't have the journalists I work with appear to have any kind of hand on this (or any) election.

I beg you, please vote for Harris/Walz... that's my personal opinion which does not reflect the stance or opinions of my employer or any of our clients/sponsors... which include the Donald Trump for President 2024 campaign and it's affiliated PAC's (honestly it's wild having the fucking Trump campaign being both the reason I cannot but barely afford my bills and the thing getting me close to paying them). Seriously, the years 2016 to 2020 were a living hell for us working in local news. Fear of constant threats if we depicted "dear leader" in any light other than brilliant magnificence. How dare we report on the things Trump said and did if it looked bad in any way. Seriously... it was the most stressed I've been in my entire life and I'm a queer atheist living in the deep south. Also, no, I'm not moving... all my stuff and most of my friends are here.

[-] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 7 points 4 days ago

Anyone ever have a good experience making or receiving these calls?

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

The door knocking is definitely more of a positive thing, but I got about 2-3 effective calls in a 2 hour window.

And if you get 50 people in a phone bank, that can translate to 100 ballots cured and or people at the polls.

And when you’re talking about elections that are won by hundreds of votes, that phone time matters.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 9 points 4 days ago

American authocracy at its finest... I agree one should vote, and not for Trump. But this poster is disheartening...

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Honestly, nobody is the best choice! She’s pretty good!

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 4 days ago

Grading on curve full of neoliberals, maybe.

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[-] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

As an anarchist, I too would prefer Nobody for president.

(But given current practical realities, I hope enough of you Americans cote dem to keep the fascists out)

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

And probably you should look at your ballot and vote for democratic people like Democratic representatives or local government on the democratic party. When you do that, next election will be easier to win by the Democrats. That way we can take a breather and finally abolish the stupid electoral college. It's 2024, we can easily vote by phone 🤳. Give people a nice moth to vote on....like July maybe? So they can take a free day to vote when there are no hurricanes or snow pack or whatever bullshit happens in October. And then change over to a new government the next month.

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Great in theory, but there are too many people who fellate the god of tradition while stroking the hard-on of American exceptionalism and are unwilling to look at any other example of functioning government.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Great in theory, but there are too many people

This is defeatism and giving up before you even try.

My state recently started allowing early voting, I voted Saturday. This year a minimum wage raise and an attempted pre-emptive ban of RCV proposition were both on the ballot. That old trope about "if you don't vote you can't complain" is true and we all have to participate and try to make the changes we want.

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 4 days ago

I am voting but I could throw my president vote right in the trash and it'd have the same effect thanks to the electoral college. The local shit I'm voting on will potentially have a bigger impact.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 19 points 5 days ago

This is the saddest state of affairs ever. When your campaign is “it could be worse” it’s an insult to the working classes intelligence.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 57 points 5 days ago

1933 Germany would like to have a word with you.

Stop fascism.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago

Liberals historically enable fascism.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Bruh, Trump has been repeatedly talking about using the military to quiet political dissent.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago

The only reason you guys have trump in the first place is that liberals block every attempt from leftists to do anything about it.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 15 points 5 days ago

The “it could be worse” is “US is having a president who’s fine with using military action against his political opponents”, aka dictatorship.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 14 points 5 days ago

Not just military action. Vigilantism and pardons. I'm waiting for him to make it clear that if you're going to murder someone who opposes Trump, make sure to transport them across state lines, so that it's a federal crime that he can pardon you for.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

No, I’d say it’s exactly what we deserve.

Imagine if we had to vote for a national ice cream flavor. It would probably end up being pretty unpalatable for most people, but it’s the only one we can get even a plurality of people to vote for.

[-] ToastedPlanet 7 points 5 days ago

That's a factor of our first-past-the-post system. We end up having to strategically vote against the ice cream we don't want instead of for the ice cream we do want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

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[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago

No reason to vote for militarized borders, death to the planet, increased police violence and on and on which is what both the democrats and republicans will produce. Organize outside of electoralism.

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 23 points 5 days ago

Perfect is the enemy of good.

[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago

Genocide isn't a good. Further militarizing the border and expanding the violence against immigrants isn't a good. Continuing police violence isn't a good. I can keep going.

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

So vote for the known nazi instead?

Whether you like it or not, one of the two are going to win and run the country. I'd rather try to keep it from being the nazis.

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago

I see, these are the only issues to be concerned about. Yup, that's it. There is nothing else at all. Well I guess we should just sit on our hands as others bleed. /s

Maybe vote for someone who is more likely to negotiate over these issues. I wonder who is more likely to listen.

[-] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

There is no indication that either candidate would listen or would have any motivation to listen. Genocide support should be a non starter but you just don't care I guess.

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

“And I feel like there’s a lack of listening, and I just feel like I need to bring that up because it affects my life and people I really care about’s life …,” the student added.

“And again, this is about the fact that your voice, your perspective, your experience, your truth cannot be suppressed, and it must be heard. … Our goal should be unity, but not uniformity,” Harris said. “And the point that you’re making about policies that relates to Middle East policy, foreign policy. We still have healthy debates in our country, about what is the right path. And nobody’s voice should be suppressed on that.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/30/politics/adl-kamala-harris-israel-funding/index.html

Trump just looks out for himself.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/13/politics/donald-trump-israel-netanyahu-diplomacy/index.html


Reversing the tide takes time. Do you want to start now or later?

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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

only Vote Harris because a Trump vote means fascism even though getting corralled into only one choice is fascism too?

when both choices are fascists only chance is riots

US has had plenty it just needs another one

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Okay, Trump won, just like you wanted.

Where are the riots? Or are we waiting for them to start committing genocide against queer people first?

I assume we're feeding queer people to the fascist machine first to punish the Democrats. Or did you have another marginalized group in mind?

/s

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

This comment is evidence that the Russian version of ChatGPT doesn't have a definition for fascism.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 days ago

Just saying there is no Russian version, it's just ChatGPT, the Russians are using ChatGPT for information warfare against the West.

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