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[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 107 points 1 year ago

Damn. These are Eastern Europe levels of corruption. Has it only gotten this bad in the past few years or were Cameron/Blair/Major etc. just better at hiding it?

[-] JdW@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

No, it got significantly worse for two reasons:

Trump showed that operating outside morals or regulations had no consequences, political or financial.

A kleptrocrat is now in the highest office, instead of just pulling strings.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

I agree with the first point but Rishi definitely isn't the first kleptrocrat in the job (he might be the richest, but not the first), we have a glorious (/s) history of being ruled over by the rich and privileged (not only in parliament, but the rest of government and of course the royals).

[-] JdW@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are correct in essence, I was taking a bit of a shortcut, but Rishi is definately unique in that he is a step up in wealth compared to the traditional Old Boys Network. Ironically that's the only level up the UK has accomplished since Boris XD

So yes, the rich and privileged have always been the ruling class, once the Millionaires get replaced by billionaires the rules, and playing field, changes dramatically.

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[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I think probably a bit of both. The Conservatives seem to have done away with the concept of political embarrassment except as a political tool in itself.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think we've been on a quick spiral towards seeing just how much the electorate would deal with.

There are deep parallels with Trumpists and Brexiteers in that their following is almost religious. Pair this with the fact that the UK doesn't have a constitution, and we've found that it doesn't actually matter if a PM is found to have misled parliament or have been charged by the police for an offence. Politicians can get away with whatever they want, including breaking the law, and people will still rather vote for them.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Is anybody really surprised that a billionaire politician abuses his office to make more money? That is the Number One reason why those people go into politics - to be able to distribute the pork barrels directly, without the need to pay other politicians like they normally do.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

And this one didn't even need to get elected (tbf neither did the last 2, or is it 3?), they just sit there and wait their turn at playing leader, when they do their best to fill their pockets by picking apart public services.

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[-] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago
[-] matchphoenix@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago

What fortuitous luck!

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Happy for him maybe

[-] jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

the tories are so corrupt it'd be comical if it wasn't so sad

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

The UK populace is making a run at the throne for dumbest electorate in the world. USA has been the undisputed champ for years, but UK swinging!

[-] Facetus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

To be fair its not like the public even voted Sunak in, they voted Boris in and we then got the Tory's hand me downs (not that Boris was any better, granted)

[-] jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

you don't vote for the prime minister, you vote for the party. no prime minister gets their position because the public wants them to. it's an actual illusion of choice

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[-] tgcp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Very few people in the UK ever vote a PM into power, and even those people only vote them in as an MP, technically.

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[-] jenniebuckley@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

as bad as Truss was she at least fucked off before completely driving the country down the shitter

[-] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago
[-] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Can you imagine? She actually would be an improvement, it's ridiculous how bad the Tories are.

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago

Of all the family values to export out of India, corruption and nepotism seem to be on top of Murthy family's list.

ps : Sunak's wife and Narayan Murthy's daughter had avoided paying taxes on her nearly $1-billion fortune. Infoys also has a history of tax issues in a number of jurisdictions, including UK.

[-] YaaAsantewaa 13 points 1 year ago

A. that's racist

B. He was born in England, and his parents are Indians from East Africa

It's racist because his values are not Indian, they come from England

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A. Pointing out acts of nepotism and tax avoidance is not racist.
B. The comment was on his in-laws, their firm, and their daughter's values.

Sunak's British values haven't stopped his wife & his in-laws from tax avoidance and from profiting via nepotism, to which he, the PM of UK, is at best a passive participant and at worst actively involved.

[-] Thepolack@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's definitely racist when you say that those are Indian family values. It's not racist is you say those are Sunak family values.

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nepotism and corruption are a way of life with India and particularly in a Indian family firm. How do I know? I'm Indian as is the Murthy family. I'm pointing out that they're doing their misdeeds outside India.

If you see their actions as not being examples of nepotism and corruption or if you consider nepotism and corruption to not be misdeeds, you'll need to explain.

I cannot comment on Sunak's family values, but they can't be good if he enables his wife's tax avoidance and his in-laws profiting via nepotism.

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

You're not even using the word 'racist' in the correct context. What you're thinking of is the word 'bigoted'.

Also, I don't think OP is bigoted, sure didn't seem that was his intention anyway.

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[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago
[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] AsperagusP@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago

This is the main reason why millionaires/billionaires become politicians.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

yet another tory pm resigns in shame when?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

If a Tory resigns every time they do something corrupt we'd get through them pretty quickly.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Modern Tories have no shame.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

Wow. This is worse than George Bush Jr!

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[-] PaulDevonUK@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Does this qualify as Insider Trading?

[-] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

In a literal theft from the people sense? Yes. In reality? No, he's rich so he can do what he wants. Laws are to keep us poor in check, not to be fair.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Of course not!

He is clearly just a master negotiator and very savvy businessman!

Anyone could do what he has done if they just worked harder, we’re born into wealth and married the daughter of a billionaire.

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

It also helps to have zero morals/ ethics.

[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Insider trade?

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