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[-] null@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 hours ago

I cringe every time I see this come up.

Because it isn't what you actually mean, and the horrible logic of it makes it easy for the Lemmy Lefties to dunk on.

Of course a 3rd party vote isn't a vote for Trump any more than it is a vote for Kamala.

What it actually is is a discarded opportunity to vote against Trump. Which is also dispicable, but actually accurate.

Everyone knows that's what you mean by this, but the Lemmy Lefties will play dumb and latch onto that logical fallacy every time.

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

It's the trolley problem again. This time, you have 3 tracks and 2 switches. The trolley is headed towards 5 people, one switch sends it to 1 person, and the other switch would send it to 0 people, but it's broken. Voting third party is pulling the broken switch, knowing the 5 people will die but you've shifted the responsibility from yourself to whoever was supposed to fix the switch.

[-] Cleggory@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

Why do neoliberals bring up the trolley problem as if it is some settled debate among scholars that there is one clear possible answer?

[-] Jamil@lemm.ee 1 points 36 minutes ago

The Dems are running on Trump's 2020 platform. Build the wall. Lock up immigrants. Both parties are far-right shitholes, and it's time people started realizing that.

The Dems in 2028 will be calling for mass deportations.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 26 minutes ago

^ This right here. Exactly my point. They are going to keep telling you Kamala and Trump are the same so you spoil your chance to prevent Trump from taking office again.

They are not subtle, and they do not care about the fallout of a Trump reelection. They are privileged enough that it won't affect them or their loved ones. It's despicable.

[-] stratoscaster@lemmy.world 2 points 29 minutes ago

Cringe

[-] Cleggory@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

Not everyone lives in a swing state where votes actually matter.

[-] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 4 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Do you know what will definitely NOT help get rid of the electoral college? People wasting their votes on 3rd party spoilers

Do you know what would MORE LIKELY move people to demand the elimination of the electoral college? Harris getting 10 million+ more votes, and Trump either winning the electoral college or attempting a coup based on lies because a swing state was close.

The more votes Harris gets, the clearer the will of the people, the harder it is to pretend there was voter fraud.

[-] Cleggory@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

What a bold and bizarre claim to think there is any winning margin that would repel suspicions.

If Harris wants liberal votes, why is she courting Republicans?

[-] capital@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Thank goodness not enough people in “safe” states think that way.

[-] Cleggory@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

They use the same logic of people in swing states??

[-] theonetruedroid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I think we have the best chance to break the third party at the local level.

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