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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 78 points 3 days ago

Man I wish North Americans were as scared of fascism and genocide as they are communism.

[-] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

All the people with ties to Russia are fascists in this case.

[-] DarthJon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

All forms of extremism are bad.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

"All forms of extremism are bad." Is itself an extreme statement.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 days ago

Cool. Now, let's start getting into whether communism is "extremism" or not, rather than just begging the question.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 26 points 3 days ago

Any talk of communism is a "red" herring when it comes to this topic. Russia isn't in any way officially, notionally, or superficially communist.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 20 points 3 days ago

People still be calling Russia communist even though the Soviet Union famously fell under Boris Yeltsin

[-] kbal@fedia.io 14 points 3 days ago

... and people calling themselves communist still leaping to its defence, for some inexplicable reason.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah I don’t get that one either.

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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 19 points 3 days ago

Oh false equivalency, I wondered if you’d rear your stupid head here.

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[-] azi@mander.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

Russians are not ethnically communist

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

Russians are not ethnically communist

Nor are they actually communist, despite claims they might have made to operating under that ideology.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Russia is fascist authoritarianism.

My opinion is that no government was truly communist for long as it depends too much on people's altruism, of which there is little. Any government that claims to be communist isn't.

Communism will always be an unstable political system, it always decays into some sort of corrupt authoritarianism due to humans' self-serving nature.

[-] azi@mander.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

I do agree that red scare rhetoric is increasing but buy in large it's directed at China and Xi. Anti-communist tropes do show up in popular discourse on Russia but in my experience it's less so in discussions on influence campaigns but in talk of Russia's territorial ambitions (understandable considering the place of Soviet symbolism in Russian nationalism and war propaganda).

[-] Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 days ago

I think that conflating concern about Putin's influence with McCarthyism is a bit of a stretch.

[-] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago

It honestly reads like the author dismisses the potential of foreign influence affecting both domestic actors and politics outright without proof. There's ample evidence that Russian state-affiliated actors have worked with social media influencers to foment outrage, for example. That's not a "new red scare", that's straight up proof of intelligence operations designed to undermine Russia's geopolitical opponents.

[-] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Russian ties, if present, are indeed dangerous. Laying unsupported claims to "russian connection" is just as bad as any other libel or damaging unsupported claim. Should we spend time eradicating russian influence - absolutely. How do we do it without turning it into a witch hunt? I don't know how.

[-] kbal@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago

Is there any truth to the allegations? Beats me, but seeing the possibility dismissed as as a preposterous notion that can only be part of a "New Red Scare" does not decrease my estimation of the chances of it.

This was just last month.

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